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Old 12-02-2012, 07:40 PM #1408
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I'm posting this again because you're clearly refusing to go back and look at it and see how obvious it is that Murray's head moves first, then gets knocked back farther by Dial's arm/shoulder.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:45 PM #1409
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Even though he is leading with his shoulder for, like, a fraction of a second; it's still helmet to helmet and should have been flagged.
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why the hell did LaTech turn down the bowl game against ULM? 9-3 and they're not going to a bowl game.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:46 PM #1411
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It's just the angle. Dial's shoulder is already in Murray's chest.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:49 PM #1412
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It's just the angle. Dial's shoulder is already in Murray's chest.
Its still resulting in helmet to helmet contact.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:49 PM #1413
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No, it's not. That's a perfect angle showing how obvious it was helmet-to-helmet and you're just in denial of the fact that one of your precious Alabama players played dirty.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:53 PM #1414
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The problem is Dials shoulder and arm are actually inside Murrays chest. It only looks like it was helmet to helmet initially because Dial was ripping out Murrays heart. Mortal. Kombat. Style.


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Exactly. If you'e going to throw a flag, it's for unnecessary roughness, not helmet-to-helmet.
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There is Dial's helmet making contact with Murray's, while Murray's numbers are still visible and you can see that Murray's planting one foot and is on his other toe.
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looks to me like his head hits before his shoulder...
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Seriously, that still version of it puts down any of Kelly's claims that his shoulder hit first indisputably.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:05 PM #1419
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looks to me like his head hits before his shoulder...
Yes, this.


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No, it doesn't. That still doesn't work because of the angle and it still looks like Dial's shoulder is there first.
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The fact that you're trying to claim it's a bad angle (when it's actually an amazing angle) immediately says to me you really doubt what you're saying, and it definitely shows absolutely zero signs of the shoulder hitting first. GG, you're an idiot.
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Direct contact to the head is a penalty; it doesn't matter if he lead with his shoulder, his head, his leg, or his dick.
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It makes a much bigger case for suspension when it is lead by the offender's head.
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The fact that you're trying to claim it's a bad angle (when it's actually an amazing angle) immediately says to me you really doubt what you're saying, and it definitely shows absolutely zero signs of the shoulder hitting first. GG, you're an idiot.
If you see it from closer, you can see Dial clearly leading with his shoulder/forearm.



The helmet contact is marginal, hence why the ref directly behind the play didn't pull a flag.
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That is a terrible angle and you can't see jack when the hit is made.

Stop.
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I wonder if kelly would be saying the same thing if it were McCarron instead of Murray.
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That is a terrible angle and you can't see jack when the hit is made.

Stop.
That's the best shot of the hit and he's coming in shoulder-first. His helmet is not lowered.

It's pretty clear.

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I wonder if kelly would be saying the same thing if it were McCarron instead of Murray.
No, because McCarron wouldn't be jogging nonchalantly towards the play after a pick. Alabama actually coaches awareness.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:27 PM #1428
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Look at this again.



The two helmets are definitely making contact; Murray's head has begun to move. Perfect angle, you and I both know there is nothing wrong with it.

Both of Murray's numbers are visible. He has not left his feet. Murray is yet to be falling back. So, if Dial's shoulder hit first, why is only Murray's head moving? Well, it's moving because the helmet hit first.

The fact that you're actually trying to defend this once again shows why you are the definition of idiocy.
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