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Old 11-19-2012, 12:06 AM #1
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So What's the most reliable gun that would be a downgrade from the axe. I don't need a high end marker since I'm not playing any tournaments.

How's the Etha? Or something.

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Old 11-19-2012, 12:22 AM #2
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Stack-tubed poppits are known for their reliability and ease of maintenance.

Buy an 07/08 Ego. You could also probably find a really cheap ETek.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:26 AM #3
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I'll check for an 07 ego or possibly an etek 2/3.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:36 AM #4
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Um, the axe is an inline poppit and is known for it's reliability and ease of maintenance too. Press a button and twist and the entire bolt comes out.

What kinds of issues are you having with the axe and what have you done to resolve them?
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:47 AM #5
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:58 AM #6
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The Axe is one of the most reliable guns on the market.

If there's problems, I think maybe you're maintaining it wrong.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:12 AM #7
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Yeah the first gun that popped in my head was an axe.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:14 AM #8
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I know that's why I was shocked. First off, I got it used and the previous owner did not take very good care of it at all. (came with bent trigger pin, broken gauge, messed up internals). Today it started to leak badly at the field. Most likely an o-ring which is now in the mail. Another part of me just wants another gun for fun.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:24 AM #9
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get a mini V3.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:10 AM #10
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You want reliable? Get a mag... Clean it in the dishwasher and fix it with a rock...
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:28 PM #11
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I'd say buy a brand new axe, for some reason used axes always look really beat up and there are plenty of things idiot uses can screw up.

A bnib axe is next on my to get list....even tho I just trdaded mine for a clone
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:37 PM #12
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Eteks are good.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:45 PM #13
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I am surprised that you are having issues with an Axe. They are one of the more reliable markers in their price range. An equivalent replacement would be an Etek 3/4 which are extremely reliable. I have only ever seen them malfunction due to user error and are the equivalent to the Axe in terms of performance. If you want to go cheaper, I would say Proto Rail, but that is a downgrade.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:55 PM #14
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are the equivalent to the Axe in terms of performance.
No shot. The axe kills the etek on shot quality (performance), unless you prefer a hand cannon that will make your ears ring.

My friend said he was embarrassed by how loud his etek was, sold it for that reason and bought my old 2k2 Timmy and now he loves his old Timmy. Quiter, faster, and way less kick.

Maybe I'm crazy but I would prefer a gun that is next to silent (axe) over a gun that's most likely the loudest gun on the market

My 02 cents on the etek/axe comparison thing

Etek might be 5% more idiot proof, but both are very reliable guns.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:47 AM #15
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No shot. The axe kills the etek on shot quality (performance), unless you prefer a hand cannon that will make your ears ring.

My friend said he was embarrassed by how loud his etek was, sold it for that reason and bought my old 2k2 Timmy and now he loves his old Timmy. Quiter, faster, and way less kick.

Maybe I'm crazy but I would prefer a gun that is next to silent (axe) over a gun that's most likely the loudest gun on the market

My 02 cents on the etek/axe comparison thing

Etek might be 5% more idiot proof, but both are very reliable guns.
Shot quality is only a part of articulating the performance argument. Your claim that it is loud is true, but kick you are quite mistaken. Consequently, your claim is substantially flawed.

Yes the etek line is loud right out of the box, however, my etek 4 and many others I have seen, after break in quiet down substantially. It is still comparatively loud against other markers, which is true. The topic here though is on reliability, which the etek 4 trounced the Axe soundly. Any regular problems the etek encounters are easily fixable and it cab still perform, where as every time I see an Axe go down, it is down for the count. Thus, the more reliable and durable marker is the etek.

Secondly, only the narrow minded consider shot quality to be the begin all end all of performance. Factors such as rate of fire, maneuverability, gas consumption, battery usage, and softness on paint are factors that MUST be taken into account as well. In which case both markers are quite even except maybe the etek being more air efficient by about 1 pod. Sir, you are missing quite a lot in your argument about performance.

Lastly, the shot quality you describe only takes into account noise, which ignores other aspects of shot quality such a accuracy. Both markers shoot as accurately as any paintball gun can really. And if you attempt to bring up kick as con for the etek I recommend firing a real gun at a shooting range first. Anyone who has ever handled a real firearm recognizes that any paintball gun has no kick at all; it just subtly vibrates.

To conclude, that was way too narrow an argument on Axe versus Etek. They are spec wise equals in almost every regard except on one hand you trade noise for a bit of efficiency; their performance is then very similar. Besides, noise is also very relative. I shoot a wide range of markers of varying noise signatures and I could care less of how loud it is as long as the marker shoots paint accurately and can take a pounding.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:03 PM #16
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No shot. The axe kills the etek on shot quality (performance), unless you prefer a hand cannon that will make your ears ring.

My friend said he was embarrassed by how loud his etek was, sold it for that reason and bought my old 2k2 Timmy and now he loves his old Timmy. Quiter, faster, and way less kick.

Maybe I'm crazy but I would prefer a gun that is next to silent (axe) over a gun that's most likely the loudest gun on the market

My 02 cents on the etek/axe comparison thing

Etek might be 5% more idiot proof, but both are very reliable guns.

I don't really know how loud my Etek 3 is by comparison. I just know the sound it makes when it eliminates someone.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:05 PM #17
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My geo2 has been throw and tossed and slammed on the ground. Still shoots like an angel
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:16 PM #18
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Selling a gun because it is loud is strange.

Eteks or Ego6/7/8 can be had cheap and are great performers that don't need much maintenance. Remember to buy a rebuild kit for whatever marker you own. O-rings are essential to have on hand. Watching some maintenance videos will probably help out too.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:47 AM #19
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I got an axe brand new from my shop for $375 and I wouldn't get rid of it for ANYTHING.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:53 PM #20
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I got an axe brand new from my shop for $375 and I wouldn't get rid of it for ANYTHING.
Really? Anything? What about a Ferrari?
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Really? Anything? What about a Ferrari?
You don't have to be a smart ***. God, people are suck **** heads nowadays
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