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Old 11-06-2012, 12:22 AM #1
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are dye nt's apart of the dye matrix series?

according to my friend they're the same series? im pretty sure they're two different platforms.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:13 AM #2
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nope, two different branches of the spool valve family.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:43 AM #3
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^^ what he said there both from dye but ones a Matrix ones an NT
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:01 PM #4
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Lol he's calling it an nt matrix and thinks im retarded for knowing that nt is not apart of matrix
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:39 PM #5
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Lol he's calling it an nt matrix and thinks im retarded for knowing that nt is not apart of matrix
funny thing is that its always everybody else that is retarded until you realize the truth...

It's like comparing a Fisker karma and a Porsche Gt2... they are both cars, but very different underneath.
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Well, the bolt is similar but not identical.

It's not as big a difference as a Karma and a Porsche.
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:58 PM #7
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Similar in that they're both spools, yeah. But that's pretty close to where the similarity ends. Honestly, the DM engine is closer to the PRR engine than the NT engine.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:38 PM #8
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but what are the major differences?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:43 PM #9
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but what are the major differences?
The NT doesn't have an LPR, has a poppet cut off valve, and has less pre expansion room in the bolt. It's a bit louder then the DM, but more efficient. Ergonomically, it has a lower profile then the DM as well.

Here is how a DM works:
http://paintball.newkamikaze.com/scheme.php?id=20

And this is how the NT works:
http://paintball.newkamikaze.com/scheme.php?id=27
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:01 AM #10
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Thanks for the descriptions, but the links sent me to a Russian (I think) website. I look on Dye website for videos. It was the techno talk that I was trying to avoid.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:26 AM #11
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Thanks for the descriptions, but the links sent me to a Russian (I think) website. I look on Dye website for videos. It was the techno talk that I was trying to avoid.
It is in Russian, but you should be able to understand the animations.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:58 AM #12
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:02 AM #13
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im his friend that he was talking about.

just a "head's up"
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:08 PM #16
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nt's are not the same as matrix
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I've heard it referred to as "Dye Matrix NT"

Just like "Proto Matrix Rail"

Obviously both of those markers are different in function from the Matrix LED/LCD/DM4-13/PM5-8 series.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:36 PM #18
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Seeing how both the manual for the NT and the NT11 have no mention of the word "Matrix" in them, and the fact that the NT's and DM's are clearly seperated on DYE's support site, I'm going to say the 1 piece of evidence you found was a mistake written by a 3rd party support monkey who wasn't entirely sure about what he was saying.
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IMO, the distinguishing factors to make a Matrix a Matrix is the LPR, electropneumatic operation and something that looks like the fuse bolt.

Obviously, the above definition would exclude the DAM and the PMR... but I'm okay with that.
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ever hear of a typo?
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