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11-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Barrel help - kit vs. multiple barrels
I have a couple barrels, and I'm looking for opinions on whether I should scrap them all and get one insert kit - or get two more smaller bore sizes to have a closer match.
I'm just guessing, but I imagine it would be better to have the full length of the barrel the actual bore, rather than just the insert?
The setup:
Etek3 with...
a. Stock barrel (not sure the bore, but super wide IMHO)
b. Carbon Fiber .689 14" barrel (stiffi I think?)
c. Lapco Bigshot .687
I've looked at the TechT iFit kits, they seem cool - but again, that's a short little nub of the correct bore to go through before heading out. Is that enough space to realize the efficiency? Am I crazy imagining the paintball bouncing around along the end of the wider bored barrel tip?
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11-15-2012, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NWI *219*
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If you're just playing rec/woodsball, I really dont see any point in wasting your money on anything smaller than the .687. I see more people that try to mess with inserts when they play rec/woodsball sit out a game because they've put too small a bore in or a barrel thats too small and then get ball on ball breakage than i've seen be successful with a kit.
Sure if you're playing speedball with high grade paint that is very consistent, it would be useful but in recball w/ the paint that most places sell, good luck.
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11-15-2012, 11:33 AM
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My position=Deadbox
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bear, Delaware
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What the guy above me said. If you are just a recball player, no need to spend the extra money for it. If you were going to get a kit or inserts, go anywhere between .685-.695.
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11-15-2012, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ontario, Oregon
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rexisme do u have a team i can join
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11-15-2012, 11:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NWI *219*
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCunningham
rexisme do u have a team i can join
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Wait, what? LOL.
Not sure if serious or not. But, no, I do not have a team. According to your location, you live across the U.S. from me anyway.
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11-15-2012, 02:27 PM
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My position=Deadbox
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bear, Delaware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCunningham
rexisme do u have a team i can join
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Lol what. This was random. But if you are looking to join a team, just go to your regional forum on here bro. This isn't the place.
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11-15-2012, 06:29 PM
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The Hero
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Philthadelphia, PA
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A freak barrel kit is essentially ideal for anyone's needs. Woodsball and speedball alike.
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11-15-2012, 07:16 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lafayette
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I would go with a kit. If you can afford to get a Deadlywinds barrel and kit I would go that route.
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11-15-2012, 10:07 PM
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Love you, Hill!
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BattleCreek PB
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Since you're in NC, the paint is going to swell a lot. Bigger bores might be ideal for you. I prefer barrel kits, but if what your currently using is shooting straight, leave it alone
As for the ifit, most state that you only need 2 inches of control bore to make for a more accurate shot... I don't know if I believe that or not. I do believe that that kit is absolutely gross looking and I wouldn't put it on my gun.
Last edited by NJEmortal : 11-15-2012 at 10:10 PM.
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11-16-2012, 12:04 AM
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MacDev Militia
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Denver, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djtekk
I would go with a kit. If you can afford to get a Deadlywinds barrel and kit I would go that route.
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Deadlywinds with freak inserts
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11-16-2012, 10:49 AM
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Steel Tank Fan
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: North Texas
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And yes you are crazy to picture the ball bouncing around in a slightly larger bore. All of its energy is focused on going straight out the direction the bolt sent it.
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11-16-2012, 02:20 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Thanks guys - I think I'll stick with what I have and bore down further if/when I need to instead of proactively. There are other things I really should be saving my money for anyways.
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11-16-2012, 04:01 PM
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Don't eat that....
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lynn, AR
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If and when you do decide to buy a barrel, if you don't go with a kit id get a .685. I haven't seen any paint that wouldn't roll right through my. 684 in 2 years.
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11-18-2012, 01:05 PM
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PL gun collector
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: kalamazoo, Michigan
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i had to use my .689 insert on empire paint last weekend
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11-18-2012, 07:36 PM
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I have a deadly wind and full freak insert kit. Absolutely love it!! A few of the other regulars at the field are also picking up DWs because of how versatile they are.
As for freak kits, I have owned both the aluminum and steel. I like the aluminum b/c its light and color coated and less expensive than the steel, but i have heard speculation that the aluminum will eventually expand over time but I am not 100% sure about this.
One problem that I have had with the aluminum inserts is that they are not always buffered down properly to allow the paintball to easily roll into the insert. I like to think of this area as the "ramp"; think of it like a cone, the bottom is far apart and slowly becomes smaller and smaller until it reaches the labeled bore size. I dont know if i am making sense to anyone and if need be i can post a picture.
I prefer the steel inserts for their durability and reliability, they are heavier than the alum inserts but wont get as easily scratched or crushed. The steel set I have have really nice "ramps" for the paintball to roll into the insert and there are no rough edges or burs or anything that could cause a paintball's shell to weaken (like i have had on some of my aluminum inserts).
If your buying a full freak insert kit, id recommend just coughing up the extra $25 and getting stainless steel inserts and never having to worry about damaging them. The stainless will also last you forever. I cant say that every aluminum insert doesnt have good ramps and no nicks but even the new ones that i have bought to replace the questionable old ones, still have little to no ramp and still have nicks around the rim (they are just smaller than my older inserts) Sorry this took so much space but I hope this helps
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