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Old 11-30-2012, 03:34 PM #1
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Get caught cheating?!

I was watching the new world cup video by customPBtv and saw some obvious wiping. This isn't the only video iv seen players cheat like this. For the most part its the pros because thats who is video taped and considering that a lot of younger players look up to these guys where do you think we should draw the line?
Just like in any other sport, on any level, cheating results in penalties. I was thinking what if being caught cheating could result in a suspension or other penalties. Not minor or even most majors but, the wipes that go uncalled then show up 3 weeks after an event on youtube. If it wasn't caught at the event, it still happened and its still not fair.
I believe if a player knows that hes being recorded and that he can be penalized by what he does while being recorded, maybe he will feel less eager to wipe that hit on his shoulder just because the referee didn't see it.
Yes this doesnt help the lower divisions however, when a good player who consistently wipes finally gets to that level where cameras are being used, it will come back to hurt him.


Just something to ponder.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:39 PM #2
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This has got to be one of the dumbest threads I have ever seen....

Cheating is part of every major sport....

Would you fine or suspend every NFL lineman who did some holding or a little facemask AFTER the game, just because a ref didn't see it....

I suggest you deleted this immediatly before you get flamed to all hell.
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This has got to be one of the dumbest threads I have ever seen....

Cheating is part of every major sport....

Would you fine or suspend every NFL lineman who did some holding or a little facemask AFTER the game, just because a ref didn't see it....

I suggest you deleted this immediatly before you get flamed to all hell.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:16 PM #4
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Did you read it, I said not for minor or most major penalties... For obvious wiping
In paintball the worst kind of cheating someone can do is wipe.... Changes the game in the biggest way
In football because, its a contact sport the worst thing you can do to cheat is hurt a key player, to take them out of a game on purpose.. And how do they punish that? With fines and suspensions....
Yes to very different sports but I would say holding is like spinning, I wouldn't and it never said suspend someone for that....
God your dumb
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And actually they do go back and any unnecessary acts, they do fine and sometimes suspend players for!
Such as helmet to helmet hits, face masks, and personal fouls........ Lol
Think before you speak, please
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I think the point the OP is trying to make is players, especially pros, should have integrity and be above reproach.

So while linemen aren't handed out penalties for something trifling like a missed hold, someone like Lance Armstrong can be disgraced and stripped of 7 years (i think?) of dominating the sport because he cheated.

What if new evidence came out that a really dominant team had found a way to secretly cheat in paintball and were consistently sweeping titles. I'm guessing most people would lose respect for them, and there would be repercussions. I don't think it's such a bad idea to introduce something like a fine for calls that are missed. Obviously within a reasonable timeframe from the event. And I do think it would help deter cheating in the videotaped events. But you'll never remove it from any sport completely.
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O m f g ......

First off you can't fine a pro paintball as most of them do not get paid to play.

There is a large different between helmet to helmet contact and whiping a hit. That difference being ONE EFFECTS SOMEONE ELSES HEALTH and possibly their life.

Whiping is a part of paintball, it is almost as much of a skill as snap shooting or running and gunning.

Next step to your obsurd argument is to start calling players out on bounces...
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Also to go to your "pro paintballers should be a steeple for the sport"...

That goes for pros in any sport.. and the best of the best in MOST sports all do dirty ****.. Its just part of the game.

And now that I am thinking about it more whiping a hit has about the same effect on a match of paintball as holding does in football.

1 player whiping a hit after running out to the corner does not gurantee a victory for that point.. That player can get shot easily again. Where as a lineman holding a defensive end and letting the QB throw a TD pass might...

I am telling you this has got to be one of the worst arguements I have seen on the nation in my nearly 10 years here. Please just delete your post..
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Says the cheater.....


1)I never said fines for paintball players......
2)what about steroids? You get suspended for those and your not hurting anyone... And don't say steroids hurt yourself....
3) a bounce is the total opposite of what I'm saying

To me cheating is cheating, is dosnt mater when it's caught it should be caught.
When I first started paintballing if someone told me I need to learn how to snap shoot, run and gun, and oh yeah don't forget about wiping I would have never came back.


Cheating is a part of every sport and every sport does everything they can to take it out of the game... Why wouldn't paintball too?
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God you're dumb
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Edit: They do...major penalties are game changers. Just like holding can make a major impact if not seen, so can wiping. It is part of the game....
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irregardless of what happens, if psp and the governing bodies feel they need a replay system, then so be it, but at this time they feel in the best interest is that it is not needed. yes missing a wipe sucks, because it could go from 3 on 1 to 1 on 1 or even end a match completely and put a team in or out of semifinals or quarters and god forbid a title shot. we can rant and rave all that we want, but to put it bluntly, let psp take care of it
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:58 PM #12
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Because it dosnt guarantee the team a win, means its not that bad? And defiantly shouldn't be punished.
Oh yeah when it is punished you get a 2 minute timeout and 2 of your buddies get to leave with you.
But if not seen you can maybe win the point and even the match because of it....


I just think 2 minutes and 2 hommies isn't enough to make players think other wise when it comes to wiping.
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really so if you are up 2-1 on score and u get a wiping major, you are now down 5 on 2 to finish that game. and eventually ties the game. yea that is a major reprocussion for wiping. i have been around the sport 11 years. yes the psp refs take it very seriously with wiping, ask the refs on psp 3 at cup. they did one of the best jobs ive seen and ive reffed for the last 6 years myself
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This was just a thought I never said it had to happen, I was just thinking "what if" and asked for an opinion! I didn't ask for dumb people to get all crazy over a simple thought!
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you asked for people's opinions, which you got.
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we are not getting dumb or beligerent over this. its a topic that is discussed on a daily basis no matter where you go. what everyone is saying is that you posted asking for opinions, you can not expect someone to hold back because as the old saying goes "opinions are like *******s, everyones got one"
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I don't think it's such a bad idea to introduce something like a fine for calls that are missed..
Oh and by the way since your from California I think that the next time an Angels or Giants player runs for first and didn't actually make it after replay review....

He should be shot in the face...

That will teach those cheating bastards....

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really so if you are up 2-1 on score and u get a wiping major, you are now down 5 on 2 to finish that game. and eventually ties the game. yea that is a major reprocussion for wiping. i have been around the sport 11 years. yes the psp refs take it very seriously with wiping, ask the refs on psp 3 at cup. they did one of the best jobs ive seen and ive reffed for the last 6 years myself
And what if that wipe wasn't caught.... Then the 2-1 team goes up 3-1 and is closer to closing out a game and on top of it "what if" the player that wiped gets 3 kills after? He's just going to take his chances and wipe next time to... But if he know "maybe" a camera is on me I shouldn't do this.... Well idk maybe it helps maybe he still cheats but as soon as someone is made an example of and suspended I think cheating will die down,
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Who cares..? People are always going to cheat no matter how severe consequences and nothing will ever change that. No point in getting butt hurt about it

EDIT: Lmao @ penalizing a player for cheating while being video-taped after the fact. That doesn't even make sense since the tournament is already over and done with. Doing so would accomplish absolutely nothing just like this thread.
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Oh and by the way since your from California I think that the next time an Angels or Giants player runs for first and didn't actually make it after replay review....

He should be shot in the face...

That will teach those cheating bastards....

lol.....
Haha yeah cuz that's the kinda of cheating we are talking about

That's a call for an ump to make and he messed it up or maybe he was paid off idk
I would shoot the umpire in the face, not the player, just saying

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Hahaha to true, I was just smoking on an j and watching ESPN, and this came to me hahaha ****kkkkken keeping my thoughts to myself next time!
K well your offically banned from the PSP son. New rule I just put in place, no drug use of ANY KIND whilst playing the PSP...

I warned you in the very first post to just delete your ****..
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