Invisible G6R leak

swampster123 · 11-06-2012, 08:01 AM

I was playing the other day when a small leak appeared near the grip then turned into a HUGE leak. I didn't want to take it apart at the field so i waited till I got home and I found the problem. My grip wasn't secure and the racetrack oring had got loose. I put it back together and gassed it up and the major leak was gone but a new one had appeared. I stripped it down again to lube and inspect the easily accessible orings but the problem still exists. I removed the board and grips to try and feel where its coming from. It seems to be coming from above where the board connects. I can't feel it but I hear it and smell it. It's not a tiny leak but its not huge. I have an aftermarket bag of orings so I don't want to take it to the shop unless I have to. Not sure what the next step is. Do I have to strip it down passed just taking the grip off and splitting the marker in half? Don't want to mess it up but I will do whatever as long as it's possible.

I have contacted BLAST and they told me to send it in for $30...not happening

abianchi · 11-06-2012, 08:18 AM

Just do a full rebuild. You got the rings, you might as well.

pbazkid · 11-06-2012, 08:30 AM

Do u thing it is coming from the noid? My friends was having the same problem and we swapped noids and mine worked in his gun so it was in fact the noid. So we took apart his, just wiped off the gunk and put it in my gun and it worked fine. Just know the g6r noid has a lot of small parts so if u don't feel safe doing it, don't. Just take it into a shop

Trigger Finger · 11-06-2012, 11:34 AM

so where is this new leak coming from and also what kind of lube are you using?

gamer565 · 11-06-2012, 12:49 PM

Make sure to use a lp tank, and that your pressures are setting correctly.

swampster123 · 11-06-2012, 10:35 PM

I'm using Smart Parts Sleek. I have a LP tank with an output pressure of 430 PSI. Where is the solenoid and how do I go about taking it apart? THanks for everyone's feedback

gamer565 · 11-06-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swampster123

I'm using Smart Parts Sleek. I have a LP tank with an output pressure of 430 PSI. Where is the solenoid and how do I go about taking it apart? THanks for everyone's feedback

Use the correct lube.

If you can't find the solenoid then you don't even need to ever take it apart..

swampster123 · 11-06-2012, 10:47 PM

I went to my local shop and was told that SLEEK would be an acceptable lube. Sorry that "professionals" seem to get things wrong most of the time.

And by my question, "Where is the solenoid?" I mean where should I start to take it apart. I'm no expert and this is not covered in the manual. Thanks for being a dick about this though, glad to see you actually care.

gamer565 · 11-06-2012, 11:38 PM

It's not covered in the manual because it's not something that needs to be taken apart or serviced.

vesparider · 11-06-2012, 11:52 PM

Sleek is not acceptable. It has different properties than the correct lube Dow 55. May I suggest a complete tear down replacing any Orings that have been saturated with sleek and new put in with Dow 55 and only tri flow on the bolt.

As far as the noid goes. The only time I've ever seen one fail is when the operator had the operating pressures too high for whatever reason. I've owned 6 g6rs several were purchased cause the previous owner was unable to maintain. I repaired and sent them in to new owners with Dow 55, triflow and a pressure tester.

510waffles · 11-07-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swampster123

I went to my local shop and was told that SLEEK would be an acceptable lube. Sorry that "professionals" seem to get things wrong most of the time.

And by my question, "Where is the solenoid?" I mean where should I start to take it apart. I'm no expert and this is not covered in the manual. Thanks for being a dick about this though, glad to see you actually care.

Whoever told you that Sleek is acceptable on a g6r isnt a professional

SKI008 · 11-07-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by swampster123

I went to my local shop and was told that SLEEK would be an acceptable lube. Sorry that "professionals" seem to get things wrong most of the time.
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You're right, they do. Your proshop employee is wrong. Bob's guns are designed to run with swollen orings. Some people get lucky and Dow 33 works, other people do not get lucky and end up with leaks because their orings aren't fitting properly. It's very likely your inability to use Dow 55 is part of your problem.

Use Dow 55 and see if that fixes your leak. I really doubt the noid is your issue; noids are not nearly as fragile as people think they are. What is your LPR pressure at? You might be getting a leak from the LPR-to-noid hose if you have your LPR set too high. The hose blows off if your LPR is set to high to prevent damage to the solenoid.

swampster123 · 11-09-2012, 05:09 PM

Ok well I've tried talking to the idiots at my pro-shop and won't offer me a refund....will a liberal amount of Sl33K be comparable to dow 55.....

gamer565 · 11-09-2012, 05:25 PM

As you have already been told, Dow33 does not have the property's of Dow55.

Doesn't matter if you put 5Ibs of dow33 on there, it will still never has the swelling property's that of Dow55..

510waffles · 11-10-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by swampster123

Ok well I've tried talking to the idiots at my pro-shop and won't offer me a refund....will a liberal amount of Sl33K be comparable to dow 55.....

**** your proshop and buy 5 dollars of dow55 on ebay.

Sniper71 · 11-10-2012, 08:15 PM

I literally had to tell a pro-shop owner last weekend he had no idea what he was talking about by selling sleek to a kid for a G6R and saying it was the same as DOW... He wound up refunding him for it.

You will find lots of informative things here in the stickies and by doing a search in the BL forum's. There are alot of knowledgable people in here with a ton of years of information and wisdom.