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Old 11-03-2012, 12:39 PM #1
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Mech Ion Vespa 2.0

Some of you on here may, or most likely, may not remember my project Vespa. Well frankly the last one looked like crap, and was held together mostly by JB weld and unicorn farts. Lets take a second to think back...



yeah... so I set out to make a publicly acceptable model, so begins Vespa 2.0

Ingredients: Redz Ion
Clippard PAVO-3
Clippard QEV x2
Fabco MSV-2
Hoses and barbs
Unknown brand LPR

So the old version had a terrible Rube Goldberg style engine that was JB'd together.



So scratch that. In comes the PAVO-3 a normally open air piloted 3 way. Think the SMAV-3 but on steroids. The flow rate is high enough where the QEV almost isnt necessary, but I like it anyway.



Here is the Fabco mounted. I drilled the back of the trigger and put in a pin to hit the valve instead of the actual trigger, this way I could mount it higher (giggity) and have a lighter pull.



Then I installed the 3way and all the hoses, some filing was needed to get it to fit, shes a fatty McFat valve.



Lpr installed right off the ASA and a hole drilled in the bottom of the frame for the air hose. Not too bad if I dont say so myself.



here is the shooting video, don't mind my poor walking skills. In the right hands she can fly



She's fast, I've yet to hit a max ROF. My only concern is outrunning the LPR, but I have a volumizer on hand just in case. It runs at such a low pressure though that I could just crank up the LPR slightly to compensate.

I think I'll leave the power button there just to screw with people...

UPDATE!

Decided to take it to the next level and add in a closed bolt kit from y0da along with a Mini reg and element v1 frame...
Going air thru



UPDATE!

Lpr installed, just waiting on a fitting. Then it'll be ready to go. Running closed bolt caps the ROF at about 12-13 bps, but the efficiency gain is worth it. The gun ate air like a fat kid eats tacos, so anything helps. The trigger pull and everything else is the same and it can be switched back to open bolt in very little time, just need a spare firing can and rearrange some hoses. 20 minutes tops.








had to reroute some hoses



end product minus the grips



I plan on cleaning it up a bit, but thats the general idea. when it is 100% complete I'll get some final vids and pics up



Questions, comments, concerns, gripes, b****s, complaints: just ask here or PM me.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:00 PM #2
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:32 PM #4
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:19 PM #5
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:49 PM #6
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yeah, after I found that I rather liked the old version I got sick of looking at spare parts held together by hopes and dreams. Now I have some idea as to what I am doing there is no need to chop up and drill everything, and I could order the right parts. Last time I was operating off of the spare parts drawer.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:00 PM #7
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What made you decide on the PAVO-3 over other valve alternatives?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:45 PM #9
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Shooting video tomorrow I promise. I liked the pavo3's flow rate, but mainly it that the air pilot can function at only 15 psi.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:43 PM #10
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:34 PM #11
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shooting video is up!
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:59 PM #12
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I can't wait to see it in action in a couple of weeks.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:17 AM #13
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I actually miss the watermelon scheme with all the macro hosing.

But the 2.0 definitely has the clean look going for it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:39 PM #16
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Well it works after a good drop, so its already a leg up on Egos
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:50 AM #17
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Is there a reason to go with the MSV-2/PAVO-3 over typical 3 way type setup? It seems like a quick switch or other short 3 way would give a pretty short and light trigger, though I honestly haven't played with one in a long time.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:08 PM #18
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The typlical 3 way set using an smav3 or cocker 3way has a pull weight of a few ounces and rends to feel somewhat mushy, also its possible to short stroke it. Using the msv2/pavo3 combo gives it a pull wieght of under an ounce, mainly because instead of trying to actuate the valve at operating pressure (180 psi) it runs at about 25-30 psi. Its also a lot shorter travel, only about 1-1.5 mm, shorter than some micro switches. Its still possible to short stroke it, although you'd have to almost deliberately try.

This all comes at the cost of efficeny though, the extra air needed to do all this costs you some shots.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:19 PM #19
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The other 3ways may be only slightly longer, but its amplified by the length of the trigger. The msv2 is more crisp too
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wow thats cool!
Of course, its an Ion. It breathes Agg and pisses awesome
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