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Old 11-05-2012, 10:34 AM #337
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How do you figure?
A statement is not inherently false just because someone uses it sarcastically. If I say Obama sucks sarcastically, it would still be a true statement.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:34 AM #338
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Doesn't remove the truthfulness of the statement.
Use of an adjective so absolute as "only" really tends to negate the inherent truthfulness of the statement made.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:50 AM #339
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A statement is not inherently false just because someone uses it sarcastically. If I say Obama sucks sarcastically, it would still be a true statement.
Jesus, no, I was asking you to qualify your belief that liberals hate Democracy.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:52 AM #340
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Well, yeah. Lieberals obviously hate democracy because it's true and because they hate it.

What don't you understand about this?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:54 AM #341
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Well, yeah. Lieberals obviously hate democracy because it's true and because they hate it.

What don't you understand about this?
I'm trying to give people the benefit of the doubt here.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:55 AM #342
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:24 AM #343
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1) No, I'm not.

3) It couldn't happen to Obama because Obama actually had the support to win the nomination (evidence: he won). RP didn't.
More liberal denial we're all used to by now. I said what if he didn't when even if he did have support because your party bosses didn't want him to win? Then your retarded logic wouldn't seem so nice would it?
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:28 AM #344
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More liberal denial we're all used to by now. I said what if he didn't when even if he did have support because your party bosses didn't want him to win? Then your retarded logic wouldn't seem so nice would it?
Yes, if Obama had the majority of the party support and was systematically repressed by the Democratic bosses, i would be upset. But that has NOTHING to do with Ron Paul's situation.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:37 AM #346
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This conversation is astounding.

Blake: WHAT IF YOUR LIEBERAL OVERLORDS SUPPRESSED OBAMA'S NOMINATION... YOU SHOULD BE PISSED LIKE I AM ABOUT RP BECAUSE IT COULD HAPPEN

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:39 AM #347
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That was amazing. How does he get away with this crap??
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:46 AM #348
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That was amazing. How does he get away with this crap??
Answer my question.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:51 AM #349
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Blake, take comfort in the knowledge that you've got yesme's ringing endorsement in the bag.



Try telling people that the U.S. is a liberal democracy and watch heads explode.
Not a ringing endorsement just like the fact that he can think for himself, unlike the herd that circles these boards here.

Clearly everyone of you should have taken more psychology and less of the filler classes you took, cause not a damn one of you has any ****ing clue what life is about.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:13 PM #350
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Not a ringing endorsement just like the fact that he can think for himself, unlike the herd that circles these boards here.

Clearly everyone of you should have taken more psychology and less of the filler classes you took, cause not a damn one of you has any ****ing clue what life is about.
May I ask how much psychology you have taken and at what level. Also, what specifically am I to gain from taking this philosophy? How would I have more of a clue what life is about by taking psychology?
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:23 PM #351
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May I ask how much psychology you have taken and at what level. Also, what specifically am I to gain from taking this philosophy? How would I have more of a clue what life is about by taking psychology?
Enough (serious) introspection will get you exactly what you need.
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Answer my question.
If you don't understand why socialism is anti-democracy/ anti-republic well then nvm...
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:38 PM #353
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If you don't understand why socialism is anti-democracy/ anti-republic well then nvm...
I don't see what an economic system has to do with a process by which officials are elected. Surely you can see how "one man one vote" is wholly consistent with "equality" as desired by liberalism. Democracy appears to be ideologically consistent with liberalism.

Not all liberals are socialists. Classical liberals and libertarians are most certainly not socialists.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:55 PM #354
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The liberal elite are socialists: Tax more, spread the wealth. It doesn't work. Why tax the wealthy when they are the ones who make all the jobs?? By taxing them, you are diminishing their ability/desire to make more jobs, thus FORCING people to rely on the government. By relying on the government, the people are going to always vote for the candidate that will continue their life sustaining welfare. Thus democracy has not been attained but rather disemboweled as you now have candidates (such as Obama) who are elected not by conscience but by literally buying their votes. That to me is not democracy.

The liberal elite buy WAY more votes per year (indirectly through welfare and unions) than the "1%" ever could hope to buy.

And taxing the rich to feed the poor never has nor never will work. Look at russia, china, north korea all former socialist countries. They tanked then changed to a much more free market and now have been exploding at crazy rates while the USA continues to pursue socialism. HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO FAIL BEFORE WE REALIZE IT WON'T WORK?? EVER!
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:02 PM #355
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The liberal elite are socialists: Tax more, spread the wealth. It doesn't work. Why tax the wealthy when they are the ones who make all the jobs?? By taxing them, you are diminishing their ability/desire to make more jobs, thus FORCING people to rely on the government. By relying on the government, the people are going to always vote for the candidate that will continue their life sustaining welfare. Thus democracy has not been attained but rather disemboweled as you now have candidates (such as Obama) who are elected not by conscience but by literally buying their votes. That to me is not democracy.

The liberal elite buy WAY more votes per year (indirectly through welfare and unions) than the "1%" ever could hope to buy.

And taxing the rich to feed the poor never has nor never will work. Look at russia, china, north korea all former socialist countries. They tanked then changed to a much more free market and now have been exploding at crazy rates while the USA continues to pursue socialism. HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO FAIL BEFORE WE REALIZE IT WON'T WORK?? EVER!
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:04 PM #356
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The liberal elite are socialists: Tax more, spread the wealth. It doesn't work. Why tax the wealthy when they are the ones who make all the jobs?? By taxing them, you are diminishing their ability/desire to make more jobs, thus FORCING people to rely on the government. By relying on the government, the people are going to always vote for the candidate that will continue their life sustaining welfare. Thus democracy has not been attained but rather disemboweled as you now have candidates (such as Obama) who are elected not by conscience but by literally buying their votes. That to me is not democracy.

The liberal elite buy WAY more votes per year (indirectly through welfare and unions) than the "1%" ever could hope to buy.

And taxing the rich to feed the poor never has nor never will work. Look at russia, china, north korea all former socialist countries. They tanked then changed to a much more free market and now have been exploding at crazy rates while the USA continues to pursue socialism. HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO FAIL BEFORE WE REALIZE IT WON'T WORK?? EVER!
None of this has much of anything to do with the relationship between socialism and democracy.

I will address this since it is sort of on topic: "Thus democracy has not been attained but rather disemboweled as you now have candidates (such as Obama) who are elected not by conscience but by literally buying their votes. That to me is not democracy."

Individuals voting in their own self interest is Democratic in nature. Even if that means voting for policies one is reliant on to sustain ones self.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:11 PM #357
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