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View Poll Results: Has racist attitudes grown in the past 4 years?
Yes, it's gotten worse from both blacks and whites. 9 34.62%
Yes, it's just the same as it's always been, but people are more vocal now. 4 15.38%
No, it's the same as always. 4 15.38%
No, it's better than ever. 9 34.62%
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:19 AM #64
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What about us spics? How come we always have to miss out on the racial hatred polls?
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:20 AM #65
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As I pointed out, the problem really doesn't come from race, but the fact that people no longer want to be "americans". They want to be "african-americans" or "mexican-americans" or what have you. They want to cling to their "culture" and not intigrate into the culture that has formed in the US over the last 200 years.
Does that include the white supremacists?
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:21 AM #66
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Race was traditionally understood as being far less broad. The Norman Race, Germanic etc etc. Plenty of sub groups hate each other, have enslaved each other and still have animosity towards each other that only goes away when people are distracted by easy access to shiny things. Economies tank and old feuds come back. People make a bigger issue out of this topic than it is worth. Far too big.
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Does that include the white supremacists?
Very much so, they have missed the whole point of what this country is about. They put pride in their "race" over pride in the country as a whole. The man next to you, shouldnt be white/black/mexican/etc... he should be a fellow american and thats all that matters.
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Unless they are religious. Then they all need to be shot, right overbear?
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Race baiting, then starting a race war? Come on you are smarter than this
Actually Gonzo began it. I called him out on it.
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Rise of nationalism in the U.S. a good thing?
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Rise of nationalism in the U.S. a good thing?
Depends on your point of view. Such a thing would solve issues of racial tension.
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Rise of nationalism in the U.S. a good thing?
The times when this country has been most productive, most progressive, and most driven, has been times when people have set aside their own views and worked together for a common goal. Example WW2.
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Nationalism is good in moderation. Extreme nationalism is very very bad. See Durkheims suicide typologies.
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Again, you are arguing from emotion not science. You can not argue with DNA, all the rest is just social constructs. At the end of the day you (and I) are geneticly pre-disposed to being a little less in the IQ department than asians are.
That's not really something that can be casually linked to DNA predisposition. It's possible but probably has more to do with upbringing and test biases among other things. So goes nature v. nurture.

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Look at black communities. Now look at white communities. Where would you rather live, and why? I'd take living in the white community because I like being able to leave my doors unlocked and not worrying about catching stray bullets from a drive by. The fact remains that white communities and white countries have less crime and are generally much more productive than communities and countries of color.
Ignore much of the history about why that is the case and policies that may attempt to help those communities have unintended or even reverse consequences. The Kennady's were bootleggers during prohibition and IIRC, still receive Royalties from some Scottish Distilleries. Now we have the war on drugs and various laws designed to be more damaging to minorities than whites. Something like Cocaine has a lesser punishment than crack typically because crack had become a cheaper version of the drug for poorer, often minority populations to afford.

That and the inherent racism in drug crime prosecution that disproportionately effects blacks over whites. Plus the Jim Crow laws, segregationist, court cases that ruled against blacks that have a more unique history in this country than say Italians or Irish Americans. True that often times the new waves of immigrants that we would consider white nowadays were considered non-white at the time of immigration waves. I'm not defending ****ty behavior and being a ****ty person, but much of human behavior is learned and not innate. You put a white kid in a poor community that relies on government and black markets, its be unlikely for him to be comparable to white suburbanites of two parent households who are financially better off and better educated.

And this whole discussion of pride in this thread is stupid and reminds me of George Carlin


It be stupid for white people nowadays to brag about an ancestor who discovered uses for electricity the same it would be for black people to brag about inventing peanut butter. No, asshat, you didn't have anything to do with those discoveries before you were even born. Get over yourself its like the stupid *** sport rivalries. Makes no sense to me.
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George Carlin misses the point of carrying the torch. Their contributions and work got you exactly where you are. Why people like him choose to view their lives as if they are living in a vacuum is beyond me. Though, I'm pretty sure ole George was Irish, last point of pride for them was killing Romans.
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As I pointed out, the problem really doesn't come from race, but the fact that people no longer want to be "americans". They want to be "african-americans" or "mexican-americans" or what have you. They want to cling to their "culture" and not intigrate into the culture that has formed in the US over the last 200 years.
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Nationalism is good in moderation. Extreme nationalism is very very bad. See Durkheims suicide typologies.
That's oxymoronic. You either are a nationalist or you aren't. There aren't degrees.
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That's oxymoronic. You either are a nationalist or you aren't. There aren't degrees.
Why? I think he was differing notions of what nationalistic means.
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Why? I think he was differing notions of what nationalistic means.
Who? The Frenchman or another poster?
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Why? I think we have differing notions of what nationalistic means.**

Sorry about that.
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That's not really something that can be casually linked to DNA predisposition. It's possible but probably has more to do with upbringing and test biases among other things. So goes nature v. nurture.



Ignore much of the history about why that is the case and policies that may attempt to help those communities have unintended or even reverse consequences. The Kennady's were bootleggers during prohibition and IIRC, still receive Royalties from some Scottish Distilleries. Now we have the war on drugs and various laws designed to be more damaging to minorities than whites. Something like Cocaine has a lesser punishment than crack typically because crack had become a cheaper version of the drug for poorer, often minority populations to afford.

That and the inherent racism in drug crime prosecution that disproportionately effects blacks over whites. Plus the Jim Crow laws, segregationist, court cases that ruled against blacks that have a more unique history in this country than say Italians or Irish Americans. True that often times the new waves of immigrants that we would consider white nowadays were considered non-white at the time of immigration waves. I'm not defending ****ty behavior and being a ****ty person, but much of human behavior is learned and not innate. You put a white kid in a poor community that relies on government and black markets, its be unlikely for him to be comparable to white suburbanites of two parent households who are financially better off and better educated.

And this whole discussion of pride in this thread is stupid and reminds me of George Carlin


It be stupid for white people nowadays to brag about an ancestor who discovered uses for electricity the same it would be for black people to brag about inventing peanut butter. No, asshat, you didn't have anything to do with those discoveries before you were even born. Get over yourself its like the stupid *** sport rivalries. Makes no sense to me.
Whites are responsible for the failed African continent along with the failed African population across the globe in every country they inhabit?

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Even my raging liberal former UC-Fresno world civ teacher said that European colonialism was the best thing that ever happened to Africa. But he was pretty ****ing cool too.
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Why is a continent who doesn't follow in our Western ideals of progress deemed "failed"?
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