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Old 10-29-2012, 04:13 PM #43
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Many employees don't have a choice in whether or not they are put into their union. Their dues are automatically deducted from their payroll.

The Koch brothers are in fact people, Ipkus.

Former SEIU Organizer admits he was "required" to do political work:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/29/fo...al-work-video/

Yeah, let's give those guy more power.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:32 PM #44
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Koch Bros are donating thru companies they own lackwitt, with no transparency alla super pacs.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:56 PM #45
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Cry me the Rio Grande. Nice dodge on unions though.
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Workers have a vested interest in a union as they have a vested interest in the company they work for. If the company or corporation they work for is not profitable or needs to cut back they are out of a job which renders being part of a union for that company...well moot.
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how the **** did you derive that from your explanation? that makes zero sense. the logic you presented makes the case that corporations don't need protection as their unionized workers will seek it for them.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:07 PM #48
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and why the **** does the right talk about unions so much? last time i checked we had the lowest ****ing union density in the OECD at sub 10%.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:10 PM #49
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how the **** did you derive that from your explanation? that makes zero sense. the logic you presented makes the case that corporations don't need protection as their unionized workers will seek it for them.


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and why the **** does the right talk about unions so much? last time i checked we had the lowest ****ing union density in the OECD at sub 10%.


Well of course because it's part of their memetics; whether it's true, relevant or significant never matters to them.
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Impressionable youth are easily swayed. This isn't a new type or style of advertisement. The target audience can't yet think for themselves, and this does a great job herding them. This is the equivalent of political happy meals, except this won't be banned in San Fran.
How old are you? When were you an impressionable youth? About the time that Reagan used the same line in a much less PC manner?



The worst thing about Americans as a people (aside from regularly taking things out of context) is we are so good at being short-sighted.
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Hell, most of the American electorate doesn't think for itself. Didn't the right leaning Supreme court decide money is free speech? Thus the corporations and billionaires are now flooding the airwaves with their version of truthiness to sway the brain dead. I've been reading the blogs on this bit of a fluff ad. It amazes me how many uber conservatives turn into rabid venom spitting wign nuts when confronted with a confident woman who has no problems expressing her sexuality. sheesh.
Damn. You pretty much laid out why I'm ashamed to be in any way associated with conservatives these days.
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Hell, most of the American electorate doesn't think for itself. Didn't the right leaning Supreme court decide money is free speech? Thus the corporations and billionaires are now flooding the airwaves with their version of truthiness to sway the brain dead. I've been reading the blogs on this bit of a fluff ad. It amazes me how many uber conservatives turn into rabid venom spitting wign nuts when confronted with a confident woman who has no problems expressing her sexuality. sheesh.
Expressing her sexuality.....you mean being a harlot?
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Expressing her sexuality.....you mean being a harlot?
Dude, where do you come up with this stuff?
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It amazes me how many uber conservatives turn into rabid venom spitting wign nuts when confronted with a confident woman who has no problems expressing her sexuality. sheesh.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2015373.html

So that explains why most women are voting for Romney and not Obama. Clearly women care a lot less about abortion than you do, which is pretty weird since you're not a woman. As it turns out, sexual issues isn't the only thing women factor in when voting. I know, quite a shocker this must be for you.
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So that explains why most women are voting for Romney and not Obama. Clearly women care a lot less about abortion than you do, which is pretty weird since you're not a woman. As it turns out, sexual issues isn't the only thing women factor in when voting. I know, quite a shocker this must be for you.
I would not call 47% (to 45%) "most women." Also, you neglected to note this part of the article, apparently:

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As the election nears, Romney has been playing down social issues and trying to project a more moderate stance on matters such as abortion in an effort to court female voters. The AP-GfK poll, taken Friday through Tuesday, shows Romney pulling even with Obama among women at 47-47 after lagging by 16 points among women a month earlier.

But now his campaign is grappling with the fallout from a comment by a Romney-endorsed Senate candidate in Indiana, who said that when a woman becomes pregnant during a rape "that's something God intended."

Romney quickly distanced himself from the remark by Republican Richard Mourdock.

But Obama was happy to keep the matter current, telling a crowd in Florida on Thursday: "As we saw again this week, I don't think any politician in Washington, most of whom are male, should be making health care decisions for women," Obama said. "Women can make those decisions themselves."

A renewed focus on social issues would be an unwelcome development for Romney: Among female likely voters, 55 percent say Obama would make the right decisions on women's issues, compared with 41 percent who think Romney would.
Fortunately for Romney and despite Mourdock's comments, the shift of the campaign conversation (thank largely in part to the most recent debate) has been towards the economy, where conservative women are much more likely to show support for Romney than on social issues, a point only exemplified in Romney's own campaign strategy and tactics.

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Old 10-30-2012, 06:48 AM #57
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How old are you? When were you an impressionable youth? About the time that Reagan used the same line in a much less PC manner?
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Not that Reagan's comment has any relevance to mine, 29, and looking back I can see differences in rational thought and decision making capabilities before and after about 25.

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Damn. You pretty much laid out why I'm ashamed to be in any way associated with conservatives these days.
Just because a dog calls itself a cat, doesn't make it so. It is difficult to find conservatives in anything other than title these days.
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Unions represent tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.
That is the same rationale for granting limited personhood status to corporations. Corporations are organizations of people, and those people should not be deprived of their constitutional rights when they act collectively.

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That is the same rationale for granting limited personhood status to corporations. Corporations are organizations of people, and those people should not be deprived of their constitutional rights when they act collectively.

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The majority of corporations (and their politcal voice) in no way represent the organizaion as a whole; simply their administration.
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Expressing her sexuality.....you mean being a harlot?
Thanks for proving my point.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:19 AM #61
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The majority of corporations (and their politcal voice) in no way represent the organizaion as a whole; simply their administration.
But Unions do?

Or is there a group that the unions don't represent?
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But Unions do?
No, most don't.
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