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View Poll Results: Who you votin' for
Black Guy 11 26.83%
Rich White Guy 16 39.02%
Gary Johnson 10 24.39%
Santa Claus 4 9.76%
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:40 PM #64
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:42 PM #65
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Technical merit does not mean good music. Music is music. The Beatles are incredibly simple, yet their music is and will live on pretty much forever, loved by hundreds of millions of people.

You can admire technical prowess, but it has nothing to do with sounding good. It has everything to do with the appreciation of the hardship of acting out such a piece.
Beatles simple? Maybe the mass produced stuff, but i try to listen to demo's, bootlegs and the such, when the artist is at his best. Did you know they had 40+ versions of strawberry fields including a polka version?

Of course the music has to appeal to you, but after you get past that(which most do not, hence the popularity of horrible music we all know and loath) then you start to see the technical aspects of it.

Just like some people will never have an eye for art, some will never have an ear for music. However their beliefs will tell you otherwise.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:37 PM #66
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I always get a ton of **** for this, but The Division Bell is one of my guilty pleasures.
The second half of that album is optimal for falling asleep to IMO. High Hopes is a top 5 all time Floyd track. I saw that tour, only time I had a chance to see Floyd live.

Pink Floyd is absolutely awesome and I would hope people would realize this.

On topic: I will likely vote for the rich white guy, but do not consider a vote for Johnson a waste if you were planning to vote for Obama. Vote away for Gary, and send that message! It will only strengthen a 3rd party platform in 4 years.
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looks like gary johnson is getting a considerable pice of the pie according to that poll
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:08 PM #68
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looks like gary johnson is getting a considerable pice of the pie according to that poll
Sad in the insignificant corner, pie?
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:33 PM #69
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:35 AM #70
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Lol, do you have a grudge against these men? It would be a lolsy presidency for sure.

I will be voting Obama if I can get my gosh darn address on my voter registration changed in time.

I think for a candidate with little experience he has done a better job than people think. My only real problem with him is his disdain for states rights in the form of marijuana dispensary raids. I think if you really have a problem with the way benghazi was handled-which is a reasonable complaint-you have to also give him credit for OKing the killing of Osama. Can't blame him for one and not give him credit for another, imo.
I absolutely will hold Benghazi against him without giving him credit for Osama. Obama didn't bust his *** for years getting intel, he didnt learn to fight like a seal, he didnt spend years upon years in the military earning a commanding position. The military got Bin Laden, Obama simply said the word "ok" which is what any president would have said.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:07 AM #71
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The military got Bin Laden, Obama simply said the word "ok" which is what any president would have said.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:09 AM #72
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the military invaded iraq, all bush did was say ok.
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you forgot the part where he provided all the false intelligence
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did bush go out there an collect that intelligence he knew was false?

didn't think so
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So you're saying obama flew to pakistan himself and personally shot osama? Otherwise how was Drex wrong?
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it's obama's fault osama didn't get a trial
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Voting is for chumps. Don't do it. Not unless you can provide a 500,000 vote margin in Ohio.
While I do feel our whole 2 party system needs a overhaul, as does our legal system and our imigration system...

If you don't vote, you have no right to *****/complain about the problems.
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I absolutely will hold Benghazi against him without giving him credit for Osama. Obama didn't bust his *** for years getting intel, he didnt learn to fight like a seal, he didnt spend years upon years in the military earning a commanding position. The military got Bin Laden, Obama simply said the word "ok" which is what any president would have said.
Then you're being overly partisan, sorry.

Either he's too high up to affect the military or he isn't. Can't have it both ways.

Edit: think of it this way, all he did in Pakistan was say ok to some soldiers going there. Why would you not give him credit for that, but you blame him for NOT saying ok to some soldiers going to benghazi?

Judging by your reaction you would have ALSO not given him credit for protecting benghazi properly if he had done so, yet you currently blame him.

So the way I see it you only blame. No giving credit.

So...you're being overly partisan.
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And the interpretation of all of that is purely subjective. Certain acoustics, forms of resonance, chords, modes, tone, timbre, and overall composition structures will affect each individual differently. It doesn't matter as much what is written but, rather what is received.

Entertainment is just as subjective as well. Some people like to watch dancing. Some people like watching pyrotechnics while wailing on each other. Some people like a softer setting, being seated and having the music be more transparent. It's all up to the individual receiving the sounds or sights, not the person composing it.
There is a discernible objective difference in quality between JS Bach and Skid Row that goes well beyond whether or not we "like" either. Artistry, or the arrangement of phrases in relation to an underlying narrative is what makes for a more profound experience. The fact of the matter is that most are too tin eared to hear it.

I'm not a snob, I like a lot of really stupid ****. Just doing this for the sake of argument.

No argument here about entertainment.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:21 AM #82
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Beatles simple? Maybe the mass produced stuff, but i try to listen to demo's, bootlegs and the such, when the artist is at his best. Did you know they had 40+ versions of strawberry fields including a polka version?

Of course the music has to appeal to you, but after you get past that(which most do not, hence the popularity of horrible music we all know and loath) then you start to see the technical aspects of it.

Just like some people will never have an eye for art, some will never have an ear for music. However their beliefs will tell you otherwise.
Franz Schubert believed very strongly in simplicity. Death and the Maiden is a profoundly moving piece, but not for some display of proficiency in instrumentation.

I agree with your last sentiment though.
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While I do feel our whole 2 party system needs a overhaul, as does our legal system and our imigration system...

If you don't vote, you have no right to *****/complain about the problems.
That's ridiculous. Individual voting has zero impact on public policy.

Arguably, becoming a politician or bureaucrat puts you in a greater position to deal with our problems. Should I say if you don't run for office or work for the government, you have no right to complain about the problems this country faces?
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There is a discernible objective difference in quality between JS Bach and Skid Row that goes well beyond whether or not we "like" either. Artistry, or the arrangement of phrases in relation to an underlying narrative is what makes for a more profound experience. The fact of the matter is that most are too tin eared to hear it.

I'm not a snob, I like a lot of really stupid ****. Just doing this for the sake of argument.

No argument here about entertainment.
I'm going to PM you. This is too far off topic.
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