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Old 10-25-2012, 04:28 PM #43
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I know, I know. I get that response a lot. My dad blasted it through the house a lot when it first came out in '94, so I think it's more a nostalgic thing rather than a genuine fondness of the album. This is just one instance of the psychological trauma bestowed upon me by the parents.
That's how I feel about all dad rock. It's more nostalgic than appreciation for artistry.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:33 PM #44
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That's how I feel about all dad rock. It's more nostalgic than appreciation for artistry.
The bolded gave me a pretty good LOL. My old man is a drummer and listens to pretty good music most of the time, but some of it . . . goddamn. No amount of nostalgia can justify Supertramp.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:37 PM #45
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The bolded gave me a pretty good LOL. My old man is a drummer and listens to pretty good music most of the time, but some of it . . . goddamn. No amount of nostalgia can justify Supertramp.
My brother and I are the only ones in the entire family to pick up an instrument. Most their musical tastes are whatever happened to come out when they were young. In my humble opinion, my fathers taste in classical is crap.

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I remember driving down to the Island Beach State Park (best beaches in NJ) with my parents listening to in a Bronco.
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The bolded gave me a pretty good LOL. My old man is a drummer and listens to pretty good music most of the time, but some of it . . . goddamn. No amount of nostalgia can justify Supertramp.
Shut your whore mouth. Crime of the Century is a ****ing fantastic album.
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Classic rock is only justified because it lead to rock music that didn't suck
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:07 PM #49
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Classic rock is only justified because it lead to rock music that didn't suck
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Classic rock is only justified because it lead to rock music that didn't suck
Such as?
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Such as?
Radiohead.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:17 PM #52
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Most can not even seem to wrap their head around good music....lmfao.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:19 PM #53
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Most can not even seem to wrap their head around good music....lmfao.
You seem unable to wrap your head around the fact that art is subjective and you can't possibly place an objective basis to measure it against.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:20 PM #54
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Radiohead.
Why I oughta punch you in the chops.
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Why I oughta punch you in the chops.
lol

Like 'em or not, it's hard to deny their musical merit, technical talent, and level of entrepreneurship.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:39 PM #56
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lol

Like 'em or not, it's hard to deny their musical merit, technical talent, and level of entrepreneurship.
That depends on how sensitive you are, as a male, on a scale of 1 to 10. A "2" being too sensitive.
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You seem unable to wrap your head around the fact that art is subjective and you can't possibly place an objective basis to measure it against.
While true, one can judge the technical merit of the musicians involved and the complexity/depth of the composition as a whole to appreciate the skill and difficulty required to complete it, and make an objective comparison to another composition.
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k. But Meddle, Animals, Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of the Moon, The Wall, and The Final Cut are all solid albums, even if you don't care for the lyrics. Those last three are particularly well put together pieces of work with a lot of depth in terms of the musical arrangements. They were an excellent band.


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Value vs Quality folks. Value is always subjective, quality is not.
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While true, one can judge the technical merit of the musicians involved and the complexity/depth of the composition as a whole to appreciate the skill and difficulty required to complete it, and make an objective comparison to another composition.
Technical merit does not mean good music. Music is music. The Beatles are incredibly simple, yet their music is and will live on pretty much forever, loved by hundreds of millions of people.

You can admire technical prowess, but it has nothing to do with sounding good. It has everything to do with the appreciation of the hardship of acting out such a piece.
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Value vs Quality folks. Value is always subjective, quality is not.
Is music appreciation about technical merit of the performers or enjoyment of the experience of the consumer?

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Is music appreciation about technical merit of the performers or enjoyment of the experience of the consumer?

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Composition is the only thing that matters. Art is not for everyone. Entertainment is. Music is language.

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And the interpretation of all of that is purely subjective. Certain acoustics, forms of resonance, chords, modes, tone, timbre, and overall composition structures will affect each individual differently. It doesn't matter as much what is written but, rather what is received.

Entertainment is just as subjective as well. Some people like to watch dancing. Some people like watching pyrotechnics while wailing on each other. Some people like a softer setting, being seated and having the music be more transparent. It's all up to the individual receiving the sounds or sights, not the person composing it.
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