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Old 05-22-2016, 02:58 PM #1
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DLX Luxe ICE Efficiency

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bone stock with a couple cases through it, hope you enjoy!
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Old 05-22-2016, 03:56 PM #2
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Excellent! Thanks for posting. I did some calcs on mine instead or running them out manually and came up with the 1300-1350 range so that looks real solid!
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:41 PM #3
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the dwell is at the stock setting, but i wonder with the articulating bolt guide if dwell will have a bigger impact. I know that once it breaks in it should get a bit better.

was hoping for another pod, but a hopper and 8 pods is enough for most layouts.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:03 AM #4
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the dwell is at the stock setting, but i wonder with the articulating bolt guide if dwell will have a bigger impact. I know that once it breaks in it should get a bit better.

was hoping for another pod, but a hopper and 8 pods is enough for most layouts.
I think if anything the articulating bolt guide will make the dwell almost irrelevant. Much like the geo and the IV core since the fire chamber is shut off due to the spring pressure -which is static and independent of dwell.
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I would have hoped to see 10 pods on a 77...
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I think if anything the articulating bolt guide will make the dwell almost irrelevant. Much like the geo and the IV core since the fire chamber is shut off due to the spring pressure -which is static and independent of dwell.
Articulating bolt guide is not the same as the IV core.
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:30 AM #7
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Articulating bolt guide is not the same as the IV core.
I think it serves the same purpose and has similar function. Thanks for your input, I don't think they are the same.
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I think it serves the same purpose and has similar function. Thanks for your input, I don't think they are the same.
I wasn't being snarky, just wanted to make sure the distinction was there. The IV core is significantly different efficiency wise over the older geo core that did have just the sprung prop shaft.
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I wasn't being snarky, just wanted to make sure the distinction was there. The IV core is significantly different efficiency wise over the older geo core that did have just the sprung prop shaft.
oh okay, fair enough. Do you have any thoughts about the dwelling of the ICE core?

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oh okay, fair enough. What do you think about the dwelling of the ICE core though?
I think it'll help with efficiency but my personal thought is that it won't mean a full pod of paint difference on its own.

I don't think that the Luxe platform will approach the IV core, or gamma core efficiency. In truth I think that a properly set up 1.0/1.5/2.0/OLED luxe efficiency is fine for most users. So the gains just make it more appealing.

I believe that most of the changes with the Ice were meant to tighten up the operating envelope on the platform and help it be more robust and improve its (sometimes polarizing) reputation in the marketplace. I've heard plenty of people bash Luxes because they had bad experiences and the platform was too finicky for them to get running properly.

For those familiar enough with the older Luxes to fix them when they act up, the thing we need to see is a marker that shoots better than we can make the older ones shoot.

Tldr: efficiency should be better, but I'm not expecting huge gains from the sprung prop shaft, though air management may help out efficiency as well.

I am expecting the Ice to have a reputation as a much more robust iteration of the platform.

Shot quality/smoothness, jury is out, but i see more "jurors" weighing in as the days go by.
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Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

One of the things about paintball markers in general is the enormous amount of variables involved in propelling paintballs out of the marker. Everything from paint size, paint consistency, air source, filling method, gauge accuracy, bore matching - just to name a few. Any one of which can have a measurable impact on perceived effciency.

As the ICE reaches more players, the sample size of these tests will increase and we feel that users will see the results we have indicated.
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Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

One of the things about paintball markers in general is the enormous amount of variables involved in propelling paintballs out of the marker. Everything from paint size, paint consistency, air source, filling method, gauge accuracy, bore matching - just to name a few. Any one of which can have a measurable impact on perceived effciency.

As the ICE reaches more players, the sample size of these tests will increase and we feel that users will see the results we have indicated.
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i made a couple vids of points i played that same day, using the same paint and it shot very well, the GI 3 star at fox4 has always been consistent. I was bore matching the paint as well.

I do feel like this is about a hopper better than my old 2.0 which is fine, it finally allows me to play in the back and hold a zone with the luxe platform which i love. the marker is also brand spanking new, so im sure as it breaks in the efficiency will get better.
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I would have hoped to see 10 pods on a 77...
If you factor in that the fill was only to 4200 and a hopper was not included in the pod count, seems like that it would reach 10 pods in this test given a full fill.
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What did old luxes get?
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:30 PM #15
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most of my old luxes would get about a spire 200 plus 6-7 pods depending on the fill
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:32 PM #16
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If you factor in that the fill was only to 4200 and a hopper was not included in the pod count, seems like that it would reach 10 pods in this test given a full fill.
that is correct, it was a full spire 200 PLUS 8 pods, so about 9 and a third pods. I am sure once it breaks in it will reach 10 pods, but IMO i think tests shouldn't have to be done at 4500psi. most players i would think are NXL players who fill their gun then go right out to play a point. they aren't going to sit there and fill 4-5 times to get a cold 4500 fill.

I would much rather see someone fill their tank as much as they can, and immediately perform the test, much more representative of what most people are going to be doing when using the marker
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that is correct, it was a full spire 200 PLUS 8 pods, so about 9 and a third pods. I am sure once it breaks in it will reach 10 pods, but IMO i think tests shouldn't have to be done at 4500psi. most players i would think are NXL players who fill their gun then go right out to play a point. they aren't going to sit there and fill 4-5 times to get a cold 4500 fill.

I would much rather see someone fill their tank as much as they can, and immediately perform the test, much more representative of what most people are going to be doing when using the marker
Back players sometimes do so if the layout is a real paint burner

I hear you man, but there is a very good reason to start the test from 4500 psi. A consistent starting pressure makes it easier to compare results. It's harder to sort out a Geo at 3900 vs a Luxe 4200 etc.
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I wasn't expecting a huge difference in efficiency from the ice. Pretty similar to my oled. I get around 9 pods and a spire 260's worth out of my 90 with a 4500 fill, But I'd still buy an ice if I could lol
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On a 3k fill in my 72 I managed an R2 (extended) and 4 pods easy still had air left so might of managed a 5th pod
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Man i got almost 10 off my 68 tank. 9 pods and spire 200.
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Man i got *over* 10 off my 68 tank. 9 pods and spire 200.
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