[slago]

Hopefully they announce something at PBE would be cool if they released a true highend marker, the axe is fantastic and with the redline is pretty much a high end, but seriously stoked for an empire high end

[98Pro]

Originally Posted by Italian Mafia Shots

Yeah I fail to see the issue there.

Oh you need a new solenoid because you probably ****ed something up? What's your address, you'll have a new one in 3 days.

And they still make tons of money every year. They make stuff cheap but they make it in such high numbers they can lower price point and not worry about free parts being moved in high numbers. I bet you they send out atleast a noid or 2 every single day.

I love Empire CS.

[[NA]WARLORD]

Originally Posted by slago

Hopefully they announce something at PBE would be cool if they released a true highend marker, the axe is fantastic and with the redline is pretty much a high end, but seriously stoked for an empire high end

They are taking pre-orders for it at PBE according to our sales rep. So chances are, it may be there for us to drool over and fondle

[gotsm]

please dear little tiny baby jesus, close this thread
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BUY AMERICAN. BUY BOB LONG.
LOOKING FOR A NICE ALL BLACK LUXE1.5 OR 2.0 IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

[specopsdeath2]

Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

You mean the vortex of better product quality and customer service? Yeah, I sure hope that doesn't happen!

Originally Posted by Italian Mafia Shots

Yeah I fail to see the issue there.

Oh you need a new solenoid because you probably ****ed something up? What's your address, you'll have a new one in 3 days.

Short sighted thoughts only bring you so far.

Vegard means that if a company makes quality items, with fantastic CS already, why would we want to see them get "gobbled" up into something like KEE? Less manufacturers on the market make for less competition (although you could always make the argument that it makes for higher competition due to there being just a few companies), and prices would be sure to increase for every gun.

[Vegard]

Originally Posted by specopsdeath2

Vegard means that if a company makes quality items, with fantastic CS already, why would we want to see them get "gobbled" up into something like KEE? Less manufacturers on the market make for less competition

Bazinga.

[paintball741O]

Originally Posted by [NA]WARLORD

They are taking pre-orders for it at PBE according to our sales rep. So chances are, it may be there for us to drool over and fondle

I really hope this is true.

[Henrybg]

Originally Posted by specopsdeath2

Vegard means that if a company makes quality items, with fantastic CS already, why would we want to see them get "gobbled" up into something like KEE? Less manufacturers on the market make for less competition (although you could always make the argument that it makes for higher competition due to there being just a few companies), and prices would be sure to increase for every gun.

Economics 101

[sphynx]

So I haven't kept up on this thread.

Can anyone give me a tl:dr summary?

[liverlip]

Originally Posted by sphynx

So I haven't kept up on this thread.

Can anyone give me a tl:dr summary?

Sure. No real info yet.

[Stan6543]

Originally Posted by liverlip

Sure. No real info yet.

100% ture

[sphynx]

Ok i figured that. ty.

[paintballlegend42]

i heard lots of talk about a gun from empire called the vanquish

[AustinHembo]

Originally Posted by specopsdeath2

Short sighted thoughts only bring you so far.

Vegard means that if a company makes quality items, with fantastic CS already, why would we want to see them get "gobbled" up into something like KEE? Less manufacturers on the market make for less competition (although you could always make the argument that it makes for higher competition due to there being just a few companies), and prices would be sure to increase for every gun.

Typical naivete on the macroeconomic effects of company acquisitions (and the decreasing overhead costs with magnitude purchasing power/production).

KEE is able to make a margin on the AXE because of their size, where a smaller-scale company would have to increase the market price to recoup their less efficient business model (sure, logistics have an effect, but sheer volume sales can make it worth the initial investment for KEE).

In fact, the other smaller companies I see making new guns (machine vapor?) are charging outrageous prices for their guns. But wait, isn't this increased competition? Shouldn't the customer base be getting better deals?


Unless this generation gets over the fact that the "number of companies= amount of competition = decreased prices" equation has been debunked and decoupled thoroughly since the days of Standard Oil, we will never have a voting base that supports effective policies.

[BartekSz]

Originally Posted by AustinHembo

Typical naivete on the macroeconomic effects of company acquisitions (and the decreasing overhead costs with magnitude purchasing power/production).

KEE is able to make a margin on the AXE because of their size, where a smaller-scale company would have to increase the market price to recoup their less efficient business model (sure, logistics have an effect, but sheer volume sales can make it worth the initial investment for KEE).

In fact, the other smaller companies I see making new guns (machine vapor?) are charging outrageous prices for their guns. But wait, isn't this increased competition? Shouldn't the customer base be getting better deals?


Unless this generation gets over the fact that the "number of companies= amount of competition = decreased prices" equation has been debunked and decoupled thoroughly since the days of Standard Oil, we will never have a voting base that supports effective policies.

Are you economist ? Agreed with you

[SNAKESNIPER (Banned)]

Originally Posted by AustinHembo

Unless this generation gets over the fact that the "number of companies= amount of competition = decreased prices" equation has been debunked and decoupled thoroughly since the days of Standard Oil, we will never have a voting base that supports effective policies.

Thy probably also believe that if we give the rich all of our tax money, it'll 'trickle down' to the working classes. I bet their parents are all Republicans.

[AustinHembo]

Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

Thy probably also believe that if we give the rich all of our tax money, it'll 'trickle down' to the working classes. I bet their parents are all Republicans.

I reject your attempt to equate Reagan-era conservatism to free-market Austrian economics. It is a tired and futile one at best, good sir.

[liverlip]

I just hope it is pretty.

[thejakeyboy1234]

So any word on when this will appear on the market? Havent really kept up to date on this thread.

[dominantgazelle]

Originally Posted by thejakeyboy1234

So any word on when this will appear on the market? Havent really kept up to date on this thread.

They might talk about it at pbe

[Decline1337]

When is PBE? I can't wait to find out some official information on this.