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Old 01-08-2013, 11:26 PM #1345
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Um Yeah. in 2006 DYE, SP and WDP signed a licensing agreement which gave Dye and WDP rights to elecropneumatic guns and SP received rights to use Spool valve technology that DYE held patent for.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:34 PM #1346
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btw, more than likely the final product won't look anything like that gun.

It is like the marq, it is a rough prototype using rough milling and extra parts lying around.

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Old 01-08-2013, 11:38 PM #1347
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Also, I found a better pic:

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Old 01-08-2013, 11:41 PM #1348
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looks like the valken proton
I brought that up a looooooooooong *** time ago. (Like page 13)

Basically, what we got it to was "No".

EDIT: He completed his edit of his post within seconds after me posting, so disregard.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:43 PM #1349
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I brought that up a looooooooooong *** time ago. (Like page 13)

Basically, what we got it to was "No".
Which is why I edited the post after looking at them side by side.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:19 AM #1350
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Which is why I edited the post after looking at them side by side.
Oops, didn't notice that you edited it, I just made that post and went to take a shower lol.
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I brought that up a looooooooooong *** time ago. (Like page 13)

Basically, what we got it to was "No".

EDIT: He completed his edit of his post within seconds after me posting, so disregard.
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man that area where the back of the bolt would be is looking ****ing strange...
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:03 AM #1353
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man that area where the back of the bolt would be is looking ****ing strange...
Agreed. Will be interesting to see why that's like that, some people think it will be an lpr for more fine tuning of the marker, but time will tell.
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Also, I found a better pic:
Pics been around for a while. Several pages back, but its been around and seen.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:34 AM #1358
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Have the same feeling
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btw, more than likely the final product won't look anything like that gun.

It is like the marq, it is a rough prototype using rough milling and extra parts lying around.

prototype marq


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Funny thing is... I actually like the looks of the prototype more than the released Marq.... Looks slimmer.
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that really gets me thinking. I agree the back area looks stange.
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that really gets me thinking. I agree the back area looks stange.
Snatch grip or just taped funny or new quick strip design?
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Um Yeah. in 2006 DYE, SP and WDP signed a licensing agreement which gave Dye and WDP rights to elecropneumatic guns and SP received rights to use Spool valve technology that DYE held patent for.
Are you positive the first part is accurate? From what I remember, the electropneumatic patent was a lawsuit between the Green's (WDP/APS) and the Gardiner's (SP). The judge awarded the patent to both SP and WDP jointly. When SP filed for bankruptcy and the bank started to liqudate assets is when KEE action sports bought up the SP part of the patent. WDP/APS still retains their half of the patent.
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Um Yeah. in 2006 DYE, SP and WDP signed a licensing agreement which gave Dye and WDP rights to elecropneumatic guns and SP received rights to use Spool valve technology that DYE held patent for.
Are you positive the first part is accurate? From what I remember, the electropneumatic patent was a lawsuit between the Green's (WDP/APS) and the Gardiner's (SP). The judge awarded the patent to both SP and WDP jointly. When SP filed for bankruptcy and the bank started to liqudate assets is when KEE action sports bought up the SP part of the patent. WDP/APS still retains their half of the patent.
Bulzeye has that part correct. See this press release:

http://www.paintballforum.com/paintb...formation.html

You are also mostly correct. WDP and SP did go through a lawsuit that ended in Dye and SP jointly owning the electro pneumatic patents. This was prior to the events that lead to the above press release. SP did lose the patents in bankruptcy to a creditor (bank), and Kee bought said patents from the creditor. WDP did not, and does not, continue to own any stake in the patents after the events that lead to the above press release.

As part of the 2006 settlement sighted in said release, WDP relinquished their ownership in the patents back to SP, but retained the rights to use the technology.

You can see here on the USPTO website that on 4/27/06 five patents relating to a “Pneumatically Operated Projectile Launching Device”” were assigned from WDP (Assignor) to Smart Parts (Assignee) as a result of the settlement:

http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignm...537&frame=0329
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