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Old 10-12-2012, 10:13 AM #43
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A gentleman is obligated to defend his honor.

In regards to politeness, I did say 'as a whole'.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:13 AM #44
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Not sure where you all are getting the idea that polling shows Ryan won, aside from that one CNN snap poll of more Republicans than Democrats in which the difference is within the margin, every poll shows Biden crushed him.

And he did. It's not going to get any better for Ryan once the fact-checking melts down trying to catalog all his lies.
CNBC posted on twitter ryan won 56 to 36, and the CNN poll was 1/3 repub, 1/3 dem, and 1/3 undecided (yes I know percentage wise it was 35% repub and 32% dem, hard to be percectly 1/3) and had ryan winning also. Which either station isn't fox news and usually lean left and posted those responses.

What polls are you referencing to?
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:23 AM #45
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Look what kind of a slimy liar Biden is:

"A look at some of their claims:

BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly — we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at the hearing a day earlier."

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-sli...-election.html

Lying about people's deaths to cover yourself up is as low as you can go
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:27 AM #46
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A gentleman is obligated to defend his honor.
This type of mindset is a large part of the reason why Baltimore is such a wonderful city to live in.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:27 AM #47
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Look what kind of a slimy liar Biden is:

"A look at some of their claims:

BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly — we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at the hearing a day earlier."

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-sli...-election.html

Lying about people's deaths to cover yourself up is as low as you can go
Those lies taste the same as the WMD ones Bush pushed on everyone. Just pass the blame off on the intelligence community.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:30 AM #48
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I see many people enjoy their politics when it is mixed with WWF style shenanigans.


I ask, dear countrymen, what ever happened to the polite gentleman's debate? Save the insults for afterwards, and duel for your honor.
Newt Gingrich killed it in 1994.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:37 AM #49
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This type of mindset is a large part of the reason why Baltimore is such a wonderful city to live in.
Baltimore? Gentlemen?
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:39 AM #50
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Maybe it existed to blow off the steam?
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:44 AM #51
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Baltimore? Gentlemen?
Resorting to a gunfight due to a perceived slight against one's honor is a thug mentality. What's the material difference between two "gentlemen" shooting at each other over a disagreement and two gangbangers shooting at each other over who holds what corner?
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Actually most duels ended with people shooting either into the air or into the ground intentionally.

The few notable exceptions are, well, notable exceptions.
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Actually most duels ended with people shooting either into the air or into the ground intentionally.

The few notable exceptions are, well, notable exceptions.
I'd wager to guess that a lot of the gang-related shootouts end with people shooting either into the air or into the ground, but probably not intentionally

There was a shootout in front of the bar I used to work at where 24 shots were fired (at a range of about 15 yards) and not a single person was hit.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:16 AM #54
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See? That gentle man was saying, "See my display of force? I am choosing to let you live. It behooves you to behave henceforth."
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Biden doubling down on the blame of the embassy attack on a youtube video and now the administration saying "they knew nothing" just further proves Obama/biden have NO CLUE.

I can't believe he actually said we have nothing to worry about with a nuclear Iran because "they don't have a missile"...

OK, so the same leaders who think that our embassy was attacked because of a video think that the only danger from a nuclear power is a missile...

WOW are they clueless, and THIS is who some of you elected to protect us.

Guess dirty bombs are "man caused" disasters or something...

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Brokaw said Biden was "in terms of content effective on Iran". Most people who are familiar with Biden know he's like that.
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I can't believe he actually said we have nothing to worry about with a nuclear Iran because "they don't have a missile"...
Not everyone pisses their pants at the mere whisper of the word "Iran." There's a long, storied history of declaring Iran to be an imminent nuclear threat, but nothing's ever come of it.

Imminent Iran nuclear threat? A timeline of warnings since 1979.


1996: Address by Prime Minister Netanyahu to a joint session of the U.S. Congress, 10 July 1996: 'The most dangerous of these regimes is Iran, that has wed a cruel despotism to a fanatic militancy. If this regime, or its despotic neighbor Iraq, were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country, and not only for the Middle East, but for all mankind . . . Only the United States can lead this vital international effort to stop the nuclearization of terrorist states. But the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.'
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Most people who are familiar with Biden know he's like that.
But a lot of people don't know Biden and don't know how he is. IMHO, he came across as a rude, cranky old man to those who did not know much about him before the debate. Ryan came across as polite to the point of being timid, and it was clear a couple of times that he was lost in his responses. It was not the showing the Romney campaign hoped it would be. Ultimately, I think Biden was a slight winner in one sense, but I also don't think he will swing the polls back toward Obama. Biden is just not very likable.

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But a lot of people don't know Biden and don't know how he is.
All you need to know:

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But a lot of people don't know Biden and don't know how he is. IMHO, he came across as a rude, cranky old man to those who did not know much about him before the debate. Ryan came across as polite to the point of being timid, and it was clear a couple of times that he was lost in his responses. It was not the showing the Romney campaign hoped it would be. Ultimately, I think Biden was a slight winner in one sense, but I also don't think he will swing the polls back toward Obama. Biden is just not very likable.

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I agree. I don't think enough people watch the VP debates unfortunately. It will be interesting to see how Obama counters Romney's tactics in the next debate.
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Well done, sir. Well done.

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PS: If someone would photoshop Farrah Fawcet's face above the passenger's seat (obviously that is a t-top model), that might move the polls on the stud factor.
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The debate was really uncomfortable to watch as Biden seriously looked like he was having a mental breakdown...

No one behaves that way in a civilized society.

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honestly, i don't hear much from biden but i'd prefer him to run as president. i don't think he'd lay down and take as much **** from the GOP than obama does.
i think biden would lay down some whoop-***
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