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Old 04-29-2011, 08:09 PM #1
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Solenoid Air Vent MOD

This mod opens up the front vent port on the solenoid and allows air from the front ram chamber to be vented faster.It does this by shortening the path that air has to travel to vent as well as greatly increasing vent size. The mod works on humphrey or parker solenoids, I just had a broken parker and one in my gun. Its a good idea to do this mod to an already ruined solenoid and if the drilling comes out good then just switch the block with the one in your solenoid.

Tools Needed: drill press, vise, drill bit (about .050"), oring pick.


STEP 1: Remove the solenoid from the gun. The solenoid pictured is a shego converted parker so it has no upper board but it disassembles the same. Then take the front and rear section off the solenoid so you just have the metal block. carefully remove the spool from the block. I like to scratch an arrow on the metal block pointing to the front cap. The block can go in backwards, I just prefer to put everything back together exactly like it was to ensure it seals correctly.







STEP 2: use a pin/marker to mark the solenoid block as shown in the picture. where the front most center hole's lines meets with the spools lines it creates a rectangle shown as the shadded region. Drill 3 holes evenly spaced completely inside the rectangle. Suggested size is .040-.055 to allow a small error buffer in the drilling and marking.









STEP 3: Clean the block with hot soapy water and a tooth brush or paper towel. Blow the block dry. Use the oring pick to knock down the burrs on the inside of the spool bore. The area where the new holes are drilled is already recessed so they don't have to be perfectly smooth on the inside, just dont have bits of metal sticking out too far.

STEP 4: Reassemble the solenoid as it came apart applying a light coat of lube to the spool before you put it back in. put the gun back together.




With my eigen setup my velocity went up 5-10fps and the consistancy was a bit tighter. It gave the gun a slightly more crisp sound. There were no settings changed in the test, just solenoid blocks swapped.

I'm going to updated the deburring of the holes with pictures here soon.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:17 PM #2
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Argh... Reading comprehension fail

Do we drill all the way through? Or only into the spool chamber?
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:46 PM #3
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you can drill all the way through but if the block is not perfectly square the hole can be off on the other side. I find it easier to get accuracy with a drill press by just drilling 3 holes halfway through on each side. The first time I did the mod I just drilled all the way through on one side of the block and came close to messing up one of the backside holes.

I'll update the drilling step to be more specific.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:06 PM #4
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Man thats a small bit! 1/16" is .0625 and thats the smallest bit I've got.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:10 PM #5
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will we be able to pay for u to do this mod if solenoid is sent int?
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:53 PM #6
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I wonder if this would work with a luxe as well?
Since they use a parker noid I would assume yes.

I have 2 perfectly good imp/shocker parker noids that I will have to experiment with. I have a few spare center blocks as well. I'll put my drill press and vice to good use tomorrow drill at least one out.

Measurements with a caliper of the shaded section would be very helpful as well.
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Old 04-30-2011, 05:43 AM #7
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Man thats a small bit! 1/16" is .0625 and thats the smallest bit I've got.
you can use 1/16" but your buffer zone gets even smaller. If I had used that size on the first block I did I would have ruined it. You could use up to around .075"drillbit/endmill but you would need to use a mill and be dead on.

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I wonder if this would work with a luxe as well?
Since they use a parker noid I would assume yes.

I have 2 perfectly good imp/shocker parker noids that I will have to experiment with. I have a few spare center blocks as well. I'll put my drill press and vice to good use tomorrow drill at least one out.

Measurements with a caliper of the shaded section would be very helpful as well.
It would work on a luxe but null the adjustable manifold for the ports that you enlarge. Not too familiar with the luxe so I'm not sure if the forward stroke can even be adjusted. You can do the mod on alot of solenoids but it depends on how the gun opperates if this mod is usefull to it or not.
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I have an extra Humphrey block, now to find and extra Parker....
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:58 PM #11
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ooooh i really wish I had a parker right now... with this done to it...
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if a shocker parker block will fit my luxe noid I will test it out on my luxe
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Yes they have the same solenoid mounting block.

again, its going to depend on how the gun opperates. On a luxe the gun fires from a completely fixed volume of air so speeding up the forward stroke may or may not do a whole bunch. Kind of like how dwell on a luxe doesn't really matter as long as it is enough to fully cycle the bolt.

The eigen works differently and does get benifits from speeding up the forward stroke. Now a luxe with an eigen bolt, I'm sure the results would be very similar to what the mod does with a shocker and eigen bolt.
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Thinking about milling a .05 slot.. Thoughts?
I don't see why not, I'm pretty sure it was done with small holes so it stayed within the right area.
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Thinking about milling a .05 slot.. Thoughts?
If you've got a mill then you can go even bigger than .050". The biggest you could possible go is about .080" but that has absolutely no room for error. seeing as your mill should be fairly accurate you should be perfectly safe making a .060"-.070" slot.

A .050" slot will be fine though. I would have done a slot if I had a mill but with a drill press multiple holes are much easier.
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Yes they have the same solenoid mounting block.

again, its going to depend on how the gun opperates. On a luxe the gun fires from a completely fixed volume of air so speeding up the forward stroke may or may not do a whole bunch. Kind of like how dwell on a luxe doesn't really matter as long as it is enough to fully cycle the bolt.

The eigen works differently and does get benifits from speeding up the forward stroke. Now a luxe with an eigen bolt, I'm sure the results would be very similar to what the mod does with a shocker and eigen bolt.
I'll see once I get a chrono.

I'd test it with a luxe eigen bolt, just need to get a hold of one.....
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STEP 3: Clean the block with hot soapy water and a tooth brush or paper towel. Blow the block dry. Use the oring pick to knock down the burrs on the inside of the spool bore. The area where the new holes are drilled is already recessed so they don't have to be perfectly smooth on the inside, just dont have bits of metal sticking out too far.
I would suggest you make sure there are NO burrs, not just knocked down. If even a small piece of the burr gets into the noid, your noid is gone. THOROUGHLY deburr everyone!
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Thanks for the warning. I just gave this a try with 2 blocks, both failed

I guess I can't draw, measure and/or drill straight enough. I ended up using a 1/16th drill bit and only drilled 2 holes. I was 1-2mms off on 1 hole on one block, leaked but the gun would cycle. Other block was farther off.

After reviewing the luxe manifold I found this:
The Feather Touch screw restricts the front vent port
The manifold screw restricts the rear vent port

I'm not sure why they made the rear vent adjustable but not the front. But this does tell me that this mod would work as long as you don't use the FT screw. Considering most people don't use the FT screw, this mod could be beneficial to luxe owners as well.
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If you've got a mill then you can go even bigger than .050". The biggest you could possible go is about .080" but that has absolutely no room for error. seeing as your mill should be fairly accurate you should be perfectly safe making a .060"-.070" slot.

A .050" slot will be fine though. I would have done a slot if I had a mill but with a drill press multiple holes are much easier.
I looked at my collections of endmills, I have .005, .01, .03, .05, .062, .093 so many options. I will take it work tommrow, if I remember to take my noid out.
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