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11-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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#337
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Assault weapons kill kids
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SOCMOB
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Solution- shotgun, or AK.
Edit- if you can't find an AR for the price.
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11-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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#338
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that recipe
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tampa, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyCount81
I would probably say AR15. You can find a brand new upper receiver from www.palmettostatearmory.com for a good price and then find a new lower receiver from a dealer near you for 200-300. I just found a new one for 225 from a local dealer.
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my uncle manufactures guns and owns his own shop. I rarely speak to him except maybe once a year or so, you think he could build it for me all together for under 700?
I'd rather buy the whole thing together if possible.
I like the idea of an AR15 though, I'd be using this weapon only in a **** his the fan scenario or for standard house defense
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11-13-2012, 08:13 PM
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#339
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Jerrah
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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I don't know if I would use it for home defense. Bullets can travel through walls and a handgun or shotgun would be much better for that situation. But for SHTF type scenario. AR15 or AK47. Either are fine. The AK will take a beating. You can bury that thing in mud and it still shoot fine.
As far as building it, the way I suggested is very easy. The upper is already assembled and the lower would be as well. The rest is just putting the two together which takes 10 seconds. Anyone with a decent IQ could figure that part out.
It depends on how well you know your uncle and how well he likes you. But this is just an assumption, he probably raised his prices.
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11-13-2012, 08:14 PM
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#340
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Turtle Wrangler
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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5.56 will be less likely to over penetrate through walls than a pistol or shotgun...
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11-13-2012, 08:15 PM
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#341
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Diligentia, Vis, Celerita
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WI
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****ing ballistics, how do they work?
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11-13-2012, 08:35 PM
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#342
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Jerrah
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orionz06
5.56 will be less likely to over penetrate through walls than a pistol or shotgun...
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You don't say? edit: And while I have heard that 5.56/.223 is less likely to(I don't know if it is more likely over handgun rounds or not), it still has and out of the 3 options, a rifle would be my last choice for home defense.
"Bullets can travel through walls and a handgun or shotgun would be much better for that situation"
A handgun would be much better because it's a lot more compact than a rifle. Yes, you still have to worry about penetration but still the better option. Not with certain shotgun rounds though, which would be my first choice for HD.
I love how you two butt buddies(where is Tafari? the third member of this threesome yall have going) always try to bust my balls over nothing forcing me to point out your flaws in your stupid argument.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightning fast
****ing ballistics, how do they work?
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Shouldn't you be discussion man purses in the clothing thread right now? Run along fgt.
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Last edited by BodyCount81 : 11-13-2012 at 08:37 PM.
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11-13-2012, 08:38 PM
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#343
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Turtle Wrangler
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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You are missing the point, likely due to a lack of understanding. Handgun rounds will pass through wall after wall, as will most buckshot. 5.56 rounds are significantly safer to the inhabitants of the adjacent rooms should the rounds pass through.
Ballistics, how do they work?
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11-13-2012, 08:38 PM
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#344
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Diligentia, Vis, Celerita
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WI
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“I would rather be your friend, but if you are not interested in that, I am prepared to be a capable and efficient enemy.”
Blessed are those who, in the face of death, focus on the front sight. - Col. Jeff Cooper
I want a chance to spit on somebody's baby. - Carthy, Detroit Strange
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11-13-2012, 08:51 PM
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#345
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Jerrah
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orionz06
You are missing the point, likely due to a lack of understanding. Handgun rounds will pass through wall after wall, as will most buckshot. 5.56 rounds are significantly safer to the inhabitants of the adjacent rooms should the rounds pass through.
Ballistics, how do they work?
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Because buckshot is the only round made for shotguns.
Lightning fast, do you recommend a good man purse that I can fit a full size in?
edit: Quick question for you two. Why do you always have to post with some smart *** remark implying that I'm wrong when in reality, you jump the gun posting to soon and then look like the idiot that you realy are?
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Last edited by BodyCount81 : 11-13-2012 at 08:54 PM.
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11-13-2012, 08:52 PM
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#346
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Turtle Wrangler
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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Buckshot and slugs are the only worthwhile rounds for defense, both will pass through multiple walls.
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11-13-2012, 09:00 PM
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#347
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His Imperial Majesty
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Addis Ababa
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Bodycount is a turbo****.
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11-13-2012, 09:01 PM
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#348
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that recipe
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tampa, FL
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Oh em geee I just asked a simple question you gaiz
and anything else that gets hit by a bullet is just collateral damage, simple as that. 
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11-13-2012, 09:06 PM
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#349
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Jerrah
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orionz06
Buckshot and slugs are the only worthwhile rounds for defense, both will pass through multiple walls.
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Well then, if you're not concerned about my 3 1/2" 2/3/4 shot(can't remember off the top of my head), would you like to be my test subjective to prove what stopping power they have?
And before your ******* assumes I'm saying those rounds are the best for HD, I'm not. But it can and will get the job done.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tafari Makonnen
Bodycount is a turbo****.
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11-13-2012, 09:12 PM
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#350
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His Imperial Majesty
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Addis Ababa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLCAPS
Oh em geee I just asked a simple question you gaiz
and anything else that gets hit by a bullet is just collateral damage, simple as that. 
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A PSA AR-15 is probably your best bet. That, a couple of GI mags, and a decent sling. Good to go.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyCount81
Well then, if you're not concerned about my 3 1/2" 2/3/4 shot(can't remember off the top of my head), would you like to be my test subjective to prove what stopping power they have?
And before your ******* assumes I'm saying those rounds are the best for HD, I'm not. But it can and will get the job done.

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Like I said, turbo****.
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Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph.
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11-13-2012, 09:13 PM
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#351
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Turtle Wrangler
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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You are unarmed in a battle of wits.
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11-13-2012, 09:16 PM
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#352
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Diligentia, Vis, Celerita
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WI
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bahahahahaha. Dead giveaway of a ****head... "You wanna get shot by ___?"
The PSA + sling is a good recommendation.
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Blessed are those who, in the face of death, focus on the front sight. - Col. Jeff Cooper
I want a chance to spit on somebody's baby. - Carthy, Detroit Strange
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11-13-2012, 09:26 PM
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#353
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Jerrah
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lightning fast
bahahahahaha. Dead giveaway of a ****head... "You wanna get shot by ___?"
The PSA + sling is a good recommendation.
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You wanna know the dead giveaway of a ****** 'round these parts? They post in a clothing thread with other males discussing man purses.
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11-13-2012, 09:42 PM
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#354
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This Title is Red
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Florida
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Take an AR and shoulder it like you're gonna shoot it, then grab a pistol and hold it out like you're going to shoot it the proper way... same length.
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11-13-2012, 09:52 PM
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#355
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His Imperial Majesty
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Addis Ababa
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Turbo**** Senior has joined to assert his **** dominance over Turbo**** Junior.
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Magen VeLo Yera'e
Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph.
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11-13-2012, 10:24 PM
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#356
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This Title is Red
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tafari Makonnen
Turbo**** Senior has joined to assert his **** dominance over Turbo**** Junior.
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I hope you drink a bottle of piss tomorrow morning. 
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11-13-2012, 11:23 PM
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#357
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Don't Tread On Me.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: **** creek
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damn. Never go to survival sites. I find myself looking at gun **** daily. I'm hooked. Got circle 10 maggies coming in today. woo woo. suck on it trebek.
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