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Old 09-18-2014, 10:37 PM #1
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Empire D'Fender Worth it?

So I've seen some things about the D'fender and was wondering if it would be something worth getting (used). I'm a rec ball player and I like the fact that it gives a slightly small target for them to hit. I also appreciate that there's a Z2 built into the butt of the gun. So I had a few questions:

I've seen that some people have the butt sitting on their shoulder as opposed to nesting it in. Why is that?

Also, it looks like it would be unbalanced due to the weight distribution. Am I wrong?

Last question is how is the mobility with this marker?

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Old 09-19-2014, 03:08 AM #2
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I haven't played with a Dfender, but I test one in store, the overall marker is lighter than it I think the reason why you see people resting the markers button their shoulders is because sine there's no hopper on top you can line the marker to you shoulders like a rifle and have a clearer FOV along with more stability. As for weight balance, I would think unless you but one of the larger aluminum HPA tank like a 68/4500 directly into the ASA I don't think it would affect the balance by much. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:47 AM #3
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It is worth every dollar if you are not concerned about using first strikes.

Weight distribution is no problem, Apex barrel moves it a bit forward while the other shorter one puts the balance around the middle of the grip.
Putting a big 68ci tank on it will move the balance back a bit but it never becomes unbalanced IMO.

The mobility is great due to design and lightweight material.
Using a remote line allows you to put the marker above and behind your shoulder so you can make really tight shots out of windows.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:33 AM #4
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Hmm, I understand that it's basically the same as shooting an Axe. I currently have one and I love it. If I do decide to get one, would it be worth trading/selling my Axe for it?
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:37 AM #5
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I would keep the axe around just in case you want something smaller for airball or just don't like the feel of the D'Fender
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:20 PM #6
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Hmm, that's a good point. I like that the Axe appears more compact horizontally. And I think I love it too much to trade it away.
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:59 AM #7
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I own a d-fender and I enjoy the **** out of it...I play on a professional woods ball and now going into speed ball events...I say keep ure axe just for the fact when doing speed ball I'll want little...of course I was not able to use my d-fender at the time on the speed ball course so idk how well it works out there but will keep u posted
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:53 AM #8
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:14 PM #9
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I think the Dye DAM looks better personally. Not sure which performs better, but I feel like half the cost of these guns is in the milsim look, so that's pretty important.

Personally I don't think either are worth the money because you could get something like a Geo 3.1, Luxe, DM14, etc.
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:46 PM #10
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During one of my local field's scenarios they were promoting the Dfender and letting us hold it and shoot it. Honestly i enjoyed it and it was very centered. It was confusing running a 68/45 because I couldn't figure out how to hold it (stock/tank) but it is basically a milsim axe with a Z2. I thought it was awesome and I like the fact that it comes with a freak kit which is really nice.
go for it dude
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