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Old 10-07-2012, 12:25 PM #1975
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Because you haven't played against anyone with a defense worth a **** honestly. Look at texas, they were playing terrible and they still caused multiple force fumbles and sacks on your heisman qb.
Texas has a top 10 dline. It was record attendance at Texas stadium, a hard enough venue to come into and win.

Texas didn't play terrible. Texas played the best they will play all year.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:28 PM #1976
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Your boy had to go 45/51 for 650 yards and 8 TDs...to beat Baylor by one score.
Okay? The defense stepped up this week.

I can't be to hard on the defense. They're all young and the guys that aren't its their first year in a new system.
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Texas has a top 10 dline. It was record attendance at Texas stadium, a hard enough venue to come into and win.

Texas didn't play terrible. Texas played the best they will play all year.
The Big 12 is notorious for NOT playing any defense so I'm not sure where you get that Texas has a top 10 D line. I'd venture a guess that at least 4 to 6 SEC teams have better D Lines than Texas.
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Actually, Bama was unanimous in the AP last week. It was the coaches poll that had 1 vote going to LSU and 1 to some other team. I forget who.
FLorida state was the other lol
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1 Alabama (58) 5-0 1474
2 Oregon (1) 6-0 1411
3 South Carolina 6-0 1345
4 West Virginia 5-0 1296
5 Kansas State 5-0 1216
6 Florida 5-0 1165
7 Notre Dame 5-0 1152
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10 Oklahoma 3-1 872
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12 Georgia 5-1 761
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14 Oregon State 4-0 691
15 Texas 4-1 663
16 Louisville 5-0 628
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18 Mississippi State 5-0 558
19 Rutgers 5-0 410
20 Cincinnati 4-0 365
21 Texas A&M 4-1 208
22 Boise State 4-1 197
23 TCU 4-1 194
24 Louisiana Tech 5-0 131
25 Iowa State 4-1 73
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Others receiving votes: Arizona State 61, Baylor 52, Michigan 33, Northwestern 31, Michigan State 27, Ohio 23, Nebraska 18, Texas Tech 11, Duke 10, Wisconsin 8, Western Kentucky 7, North Carolina State 6, Louisiana-Lafayette 6, Oklahoma State 5, San Jose State 4, Louisiana-Monroe 3, Nevada 2, Toledo 2
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**** that, dude. According to Nick Saban, his recruiting strategy is all about selling Alabama and its tradition. When you have the brand and level of success that Alabama has, it's just different to play for them.

I remember when DeMeco Ryans once said that when he first got to Bama, he didn't like the uniforms because he thought they were too simple, but towards the end of his career he loved them because he knew how many great players wore that same uniform.

If you're wearing crimson, you're wearing the uniform of the best team in the SEC. Tradition is what Alabama is all about.
And that's great for the Tide.

....but what would you do if you became the new head coach of a school with no tradition? Would you fall in line with everyone else, or would you use the **** out of everything you have at your disposal?
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Okay? The defense stepped up this week.

I can't be to hard on the defense. They're all young and the guys that aren't its their first year in a new system.
404 yards and 45 points.

If that is "stepping up", ****ing LOL.
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And that's great for the Tide.

....but what would you do if you became the new head coach of a school with no tradition? Would you fall in line with everyone else, or would you use the <del>****</del> out of everything you have at your disposal?
I agree. It works for Oregon. And if I were starting a program from scratch or taking over a program that had no history or tradition I'd probably do the same if I could. But if it works, eventually you start to develop your own traditions and over time, some of those traditions will stick and become a more stable part of your program.

Obviously, the only reason Oregon is able to do what they do with their Unis is their relationship with Nike. But even that won't last forever.
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And that's great for the Tide.

....but what would you do if you became the new head coach of a school with no tradition? Would you fall in line with everyone else, or would you use the **** out of everything you have at your disposal?
I get what you're saying, but just because you don't have the tradition of Alabama doesn't mean you have to whore yourself out and effectively become the Nike Factory Team.
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404 yards and 45 points.

If that is "stepping up", ****ing LOL.
200 total yards of offense.

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I agree. It works for Oregon. And if I were starting a program from scratch or taking over a program that had no history or tradition I'd probably do the same if I could. But if it works, eventually you start to develop your own traditions and over time, some of those traditions will stick and become a more stable part of your program.

Obviously, the only reason Oregon is able to do what they do with their Unis is their relationship with Nike.
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Ummm.... It'll be a very long time for that one to go away. Nike was created because of the Oregon track team. Nike is in Oregon. Half of the buildings on campus have the name "Knight" in them. Nike uses Oregon athletics for R&D, as well (pro combat football gear was in use by the ducks almost a full season before public release).

It's hard to separate Nike And Oregon.... And it would take a collapse of the company for it to go away from the school support.

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Ummm....that's probably the only tradition Oregon football has....it's not a new thing.
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200 total yards of offense.

Shut it.
I see the butthurt is still strong with people that got annihilated by LSU's 5 play offense.
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And that's great for the Tide.

....but what would you do if you became the new head coach of a school with no tradition? Would you fall in line with everyone else, or would you use the **** out of everything you have at your disposal?
I would imitate and try to do what they did better than everyone. Tradition is made by success and I would look at those who have had the most to model it after. And tradition isnt something like new uniforms. Thats a marketing gimmick.

Doing things different and new doesnt make it better. Oregons offense works. But it doesnt work against damn good defenses who have time to adapt to it's pace. The pace of it and some fast players make it good and it works against teams with lesser coaching and athletes. Not against the big dogs. You wont beat a top ranked SEC team in the NC if you get there.

The players are just as fast, bigger, and meaner.

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I see the butthurt is still strong with people that got annihilated by LSU's 5 play offense.
Dude.

Georgia Tech lost to MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE.

Do you think I'm concerned about a loss to LSU?
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I would imitate and try to do what they did better than everyone. Tradition is made by success and I would look at those who have had the most to model it after. And tradition isnt something like new uniforms. Thats a marketing gimmick.
Tradition is really only effected by winning. It doesn't matter what kind of uniforms you wear, if you win, eventually you will have tradition. Oregon doesn't have it yet because they haven't won for a while. Having Nike give them free swag all the time I'm sure makes a good recruiting tool. Why not play on it. Tradition isn't built in a day and you can't expect Oregon to do it overnight. Since you can't recruit on tradition, you have to make the best use of what you do have.
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Oregons offense works. But it doesnt work against damn good defenses who have time to adapt to it's pace. You wont beat a top ranked SEC team in the NC if you get there.
I'm definitely alright with losing the NC. Most "traditional" teams won't even get that far.

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