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Old 10-03-2012, 03:34 PM #1114
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So why didn't they use a different book?
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Originally Posted by NinjaMouse:But as a poster in this thread, all I can say is good ****ing luck to whoever wants to try to knock you off the #1 spot. That will take something epic. It would be the upset of the posting season.
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Idk. I haven't even seen the video.

But there are 100's of articles about it.
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Oh I'm sure that's what it is, that video just looks cheesy as ****, and at the end of the video you can even see the title and Joe's face.

I find it ironic they used a little boy for the homecoming video.
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i just learned that King of The Hill was canceled to make room for the cleveland show (stolen from reddit)...

edit: smarty, invite her over and proceed to pile drive pound dat ***. treat her poorly and ignore her emotionally and eventually she will either not be addicted to you anymore and ditch or stick around because she is a dumb psycho who thinks she can fix you. in the rare event it is the latter then you simply fake your death
I knew that a long time ago about the Cleveland Show. So ****ing stupid. Cleveland is one of those characters that's good in the small role he plays on Family Guy. When he has to fill up a whole show he becomes stale and boring.
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Really now. Well, I now have yet another reason to hate the cleveland show. Seriously....KotH was a classic.

Also, Smarty I'm legitimately curious about something. This girl is interested in you, obviously, but wouldn't fooling around with her in any way make you go into an OCD cleaning frenzy? Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand how a potential relationship would work for you.
She is definitely in to me, considers us a couple, and wants to be around me a lot. I enjoy her company and find her attractive, and she is one of a very few females who I can stand her company for more than 20 minutes. She is aware of my situation, and knows that I have a pretty severe case of OCD but no one outside of my immediate family and a few close friends actually knows the particulars.

And honestly, I think you're right. I've thought about it, and I really don't know what would happen or what I would have to do if it ever led to sexual activity, but I could easily see myself going off to clean and shower, thus leaving her in a state of confusion and myself not in a state to immediately explain everything until all the cleaning is done.

I really have no precedent to go on to predict how my OCD might react in that situation either. I have entered into situations that I was nervous about before and I was able to mitigate the consequences, but there's not much you can do with something like this. I've also been in completely normal circumstances which usually don't worry me at all, and then one small thing ends up ballooning into a two hour or more cleaning spree. It's really unpredictable and I really don't know how to handle it.
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depends on who you are seeing. i have seen some insanely amazing shows recently where the bands sound better live. most were smaller or indy bands and one was an acoustic show (ted leo, ****ing amazing)

the best example is tom petty. if you ever have a chance to see him do it. my mind was blown on how good he sounds. i saw metallica maybe 10 years ago and they sounded almost perfect too.
I'm pretty biased, but I absolutely love Springsteen's live shows. I have never been there live, but my HD has about 50 GB of bootlegs of his concerts, from the '60s to the present. His live stuff for the past 5 years hasn't been as great because he and the whole band have aged, but he still puts on a great show every night, and every now and then he puts on a classic like Hyde Park in '09, his shows at Giants Stadium before it closed, et cetera. I enjoy his late '70s - early '80s shows the best by far, probably my favorite year would be 1977. He had some tremendous extended versions of backstreets in that year, and the Miami Horns were still playing with the E Street Band and I love the sound that they added.
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Idk what the hell is wrong with me. I'm doing great in school, mid-semester grades are out and I have a 3.8...but I'm just so damn depressed lately. I'm really involved around campus and what not, have tons of friends around, etc. For whatever reason though for the past week I've hit a wall and really been in the dumps. I'm going home next weekend to visit. It's just a strange feeling, idk what to do it's a mixture of feelings I guess. I always put a lot of pressure on myself to do well, and I kind of miss home, and a situation that I left home on bad terms with (not by choice) that really effects me has been coming up again in my life for whatever reason. Anyone ever feel like this during college? (inb4ugaybro?)
I've felt like this every day since I can remember. Depression is interwoven in a lot of mental disorders, which is part of what makes mental conditions so hard to diagnose. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me being around lots of people just makes it worse. It sounds like you probably nailed down the cause of your depression. I don't know the terms that you left home on, and you don't have to talk about it if you don't want to. If you naturally put pressure on yourself to do well, that's going to give you a lot of anxiety. And lots of times, anxiety can bring out a lot of different feelings that you have under the surface, which for you is probably nostalgia for home, and dissatisfaction with how you left home.
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Did you even read the post you quoted or did you just write up some stock reply?

as I stated, enjoyability doesn't equate quality. To state measure of technical standard is still totally subjective is pure ignorance. Writer A uses more words and more complex words than writer B. This is quanitfiable, objective measurement of the two artists.

While there is no exact formula, there are guidelines that have been established and there is a method which will more regularly produce positive results. Otherwise people wouldn't clamor for places like Juliard and Berklee to perfect their craft.
I agree with a lot of this. With most major artists, you can tell what they are trying to accomplish. They are either playing within a style or genre, or trying to create their own. If it's the former, they can be judged on how well they fit within that genre. They can be judged on how well they use their unique talents to add something to that genre. If it's the latter, then they can be judged on how well they convey their message, and what the structure of their music does to help convey that message. For example is their style disjointed and ineffective or does it reflect the meaning and the mood of the piece. If someone writes a poem and clearly intends it to be a sonnet, then if it's missing several conventions of the sonnet then it is a failed work. However if someone writes a poem and intends it to be unattached to any previous form, then we must judge it based on its own vocabulary.

So much of music and any type of art is subjective, but you just have to judge it based on what the artist is trying to do and if he is able to accomplish that. Two composers close together in time are Josquin des Prez and Johannes Ockeghem. Josquin was slightly later than Ockeghem, and his music reflected a more Renaissance style. He used a highly advanced musical rhetoric for the time, and he was one of the first composers to have the mood of the music help convey the meaning and the mood of the text. Ockeghem on the other hand was slightly earlier and followed the more Medieval school of thought. His music was not concerned with the mood of the text, but he was extremely influential in his own right, and he remains as the most recognized composer of the Franco-Flemish school of musicians. He used long sweeping phrases without rest which were smooth to the ear. He resisted the popular feature of pervasive imitation, but he largely incorporated the concept of cantus firmus into his masses, in which he used a pre-existing melody as a theme and built the music of the piece around that, and was quite proficient at it. Point being, you can say that Josquin's music better reflected the tone of the text with that being a fair assessment of his work, but you cannot use that same argument to detract from Ockeghem's work, because he was largely unconcerned with that aspect and it wasn't what he was trying to accomplish.
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I would definitely be upfront with the girl about your OCD. Sounds like she might give a **** enough to be understanding of your situation.
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She is definitely in to me, considers us a couple, and wants to be around me a lot. I enjoy her company and find her attractive, and she is one of a very few females who I can stand her company for more than 20 minutes. She is aware of my situation, and knows that I have a pretty severe case of OCD but no one outside of my immediate family and a few close friends actually knows the particulars.

And honestly, I think you're right. I've thought about it, and I really don't know what would happen or what I would have to do if it ever led to sexual activity, but I could easily see myself going off to clean and shower, thus leaving her in a state of confusion and myself not in a state to immediately explain everything until all the cleaning is done.

I really have no precedent to go on to predict how my OCD might react in that situation either. I have entered into situations that I was nervous about before and I was able to mitigate the consequences, but there's not much you can do with something like this. I've also been in completely normal circumstances which usually don't worry me at all, and then one small thing ends up ballooning into a two hour or more cleaning spree. It's really unpredictable and I really don't know how to handle it.
Honestly, just date her, see where it goes, if she knows that you have a severe case of OCD then she shouldn't be too surprised when after you investigate her moistness you go shower/etc. Hell, maybe you could have some steamy shower sexy time. Either way, just go with it and see what happens

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I agree with a lot of this. With most major artists, you can tell what they are trying to accomplish. They are either playing within a style or genre, or trying to create their own. If it's the former, they can be judged on how well they fit within that genre. They can be judged on how well they use their unique talents to add something to that genre. If it's the latter, then they can be judged on how well they convey their message, and what the structure of their music does to help convey that message. For example is their style disjointed and ineffective or does it reflect the meaning and the mood of the piece. If someone writes a poem and clearly intends it to be a sonnet, then if it's missing several conventions of the sonnet then it is a failed work. However if someone writes a poem and intends it to be unattached to any previous form, then we must judge it based on its own vocabulary.

So much of music and any type of art is subjective, but you just have to judge it based on what the artist is trying to do and if he is able to accomplish that. Two composers close together in time are Josquin des Prez and Johannes Ockeghem. Josquin was slightly later than Ockeghem, and his music reflected a more Renaissance style. He used a highly advanced musical rhetoric for the time, and he was one of the first composers to have the mood of the music help convey the meaning and the mood of the text. Ockeghem on the other hand was slightly earlier and followed the more Medieval school of thought. His music was not concerned with the mood of the text, but he was extremely influential in his own right, and he remains as the most recognized composer of the Franco-Flemish school of musicians. He used long sweeping phrases without rest which were smooth to the ear. He resisted the popular feature of pervasive imitation, but he largely incorporated the concept of cantus firmus into his masses, in which he used a pre-existing melody as a theme and built the music of the piece around that, and was quite proficient at it. Point being, you can say that Josquin's music better reflected the tone of the text with that being a fair assessment of his work, but you cannot use that same argument to detract from Ockeghem's work, because he was largely unconcerned with that aspect and it wasn't what he was trying to accomplish.
Again, the fallacy in all of this is even the standards and expectations of what we believe should make something, for example a sonnet, is still subjective. Just because one belief is considered to be the norm, does not change it from being subjective.

Take the English language for example. It is spoken in wildly different ways depending on which part of the country they are from, and everyone speaking it believes they are speaking it correctly. Who is speaking correct English?

There is no true cut and dry standard for music and its genres, and there never will be simply because everything about it is subjective. The simple truth is what we hear and class as good music and whether or not it fits in its genre is entirely up to the individual listening to it.
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Honestly, just date her, see where it goes, if she knows that you have a severe case of OCD then she shouldn't be too surprised when after you investigate her moistness you go shower/etc. Hell, maybe you could have some steamy shower sexy time. Either way, just go with it and see what happens



Again, the fallacy in all of this is even the standards and expectations of what we believe should make something, for example a sonnet, is still subjective. Just because one belief is considered to be the norm, does not change it from being subjective.

Take the English language for example. It is spoken in wildly different ways depending on which part of the country they are from, and everyone speaking it believes they are speaking it correctly. Who is speaking correct English?

There is no true cut and dry standard for music and its genres, and there never will be simply because everything about it is subjective. The simple truth is what we hear and class as good music and whether or not it fits in its genre is entirely up to the individual listening to it.
I'll probably mention it to her tonight. She's going to be watching with me as the Yankees hopefully clinch the East. I guess the best case scenario would be shower stuff. Fool around in there and then I can just wash up, do my thing, and not have to worry about anything else.

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As for the music/art discussion, I get what you're saying. It's definitely the right attitude to have that you can make any style or form into something worth admiring that people will enjoy. That attitude is likely where we get differing forms of popular arts like the sonnet (Shakespearean, Petrarchan, Spenserian). But some people are just more effective at their craft than others. You're right that you can't measure good and bad in a work, but you can measure a work on its effect on people. If an artists work speaks to cultural and economic themes and ties them together in a compelling narrative, it's going to have a bigger effect on people than a work that's merely trying to capitalize on a popular trend of the time. I will say that no work should be dismissed at first glance, because oftentimes people are quick to do so when there is a very worthwhile message underneath that you aren't going to see on the first glance.

It's a very tough thing to judge, and you can't judge it on a piece of art alone. You have to look at its effect on people, its commentary on the times it was created in, and the message that it's trying to convey.
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I'll probably mention it to her tonight. She's going to be watching with me as the Yankees hopefully clinch the East. I guess the best case scenario would be shower stuff. Fool around in there and then I can just wash up, do my thing, and not have to worry about anything else.
Or, worst case scenario, you associate the "dirty" acts with being in the shower, and then you're just ****ed.
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65 University of Wisconsin -- Madison NCAA I 42 26 271 113.0
66 Bradley University NCAA I 56 213 72 114.0
66 University of California -- Santa Barbara NCAA I 42 98 203 114.0
68 University of Portland NCAA I 59 137 149 115.0
69 Marist College NCAA I 63 182 103 116.0
70 Belmont University NCAA I 57 213 81 117.0
70 University of Alabama NCAA I 75 23 254 117.0
72 The George Washington University NCAA I 50 235 72 119.0
73 University of San Diego NCAA I 97 81 183 120.0
74 University of California -- Berkeley NCAA I 21 11 330 121.0
75 Loyola Marymount University NCAA I 54 182 130 122.0
75 Southern Methodist University NCAA I 62 100 203 122.0
77 College of the Holy Cross NCAA I 79 278 13 123.0
78 DePaul University NCAA I 132 182 58 124.0
79 Clemson University NCAA I 68 54 254 125.0
80 St. Bonaventure University NCAA I 82 169 130 127.0
80 University of California -- Davis NCAA I 38 182 161 127.0
82 Canisius College NCAA I 70 242 72 128.0
82 Monmouth University NCAA I 91 213 81 128.0
82 University of Minnesota -- Twin Cities NCAA I 68 22 294 128.0
85 University of Detroit Mercy NCAA I 73 242 72 129.0
86 University of Connecticut NCAA I 58 61 271 130.0
87 University of Southern California NCAA I 23 7 362 131.0
88 Elon University NCAA I 52 242 103 132.0
88 James Madison University NCAA I 56 136 203 132.0
90 Drake University NCAA I 53 242 103 133.0
91 Seattle University NCAA I 56 316 30 134.0
91 Siena College NCAA I 112 277 13 134.0
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95 Miami University -- Oxford NCAA I 90 203 119 137.0
95 University of Georgia NCAA I 62 18 330 137.0
95 University of Missouri -- Columbia NCAA I 90 49 271 137.0
98 Saint Joseph's University NCAA I 58 278 81 139.0
99 University of Oregon NCAA I 101 24 294 140.0
100 Illinois State University NCAA I 160 82 183 142.0
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