[Treghc]

Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch

This man understands.

Catering to the lazy and letting the lazy graduate is an educational problem. If the requirements for a GED or high school diploma were more stringent, less people would be so lazy.

[Iamamartianchurch]

Originally Posted by Treghc

Catering to the lazy and letting the lazy graduate is an educational problem. If the requirements for a GED or high school diploma were more stringent, less people would be so lazy.

Indeed. It drags everyone down. Especially the quality of the university. It is more of a job training apparatus these days. You have to lower your standards if you wish to be more inclusive.

[quakcer]

That's why affirmative action needs to be abolished. Admissions should be based on how qualified you are, not what color your skin is.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Originally Posted by shakeyjonez

Common troll compares himself to Plato. Sounds stupid to me. Do me a favor and let go of my nuts. While you're at it, put me on your ignore list too.

1) I didn't say you were the worst poster, simply that everyone else says you are. I actually don't mind you that bad, but you can't pretend that your reputation around here isn't a joke. You made the "ignore-list" twice...
2) Saying that I am making an argument Plato did is not comparing myself to him. Strawman more please. Also, in doing so, you ignored the entire point of the post. Quality job.
3) Welcome to the ignore list, I guess.

Originally Posted by Treghc

Catering to the lazy and letting the lazy graduate is an educational problem. If the requirements for a GED or high school diploma were more stringent, less people would be so lazy.

I think we can all agree that we need to make structural changes (what we teach, how we teach it, how we test it) as well as cultural changes. I have a feeling the cultural might be a bit harder.

[tsbalr120]

Originally Posted by Matt.is.back2011

There is nothing wrong with the education system;

lol'd at this

this country is simply filled with halfbreed lazy entitled morons who honestly care more about what Honey Boo Boo will say next than their child's math homework assignment.

Privatizing education won't correct institutional and cultural rot.

but agree with this tho

[mnp8nt]

Romney is struggling because as a candidate he isn't moderate enough for the majority. The trend lately has been shifts in polling in swing states after the Pres and VP debates.

Originally Posted by Treghc

Catering to the lazy and letting the lazy graduate is an educational problem. If the requirements for a GED or high school diploma were more stringent, less people would be so lazy.

I agree, highschools are so pressured to pass kids they have lowered the difficulty of passing. Especially with pressure from the No Child Left Behind policy. How do you propose society address the problem of people who don't get a GED afterwards?

Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin

Less than 25% of Americans have a bachelors degree. 15% haven't even finished high school. Our electorate is incredibly uninformed. Why should I give a flying **** what the american general population thinks about very complex and intricate economic problems?

Where are you getting your figures, 2001? 30% of Americans have a bachelors degree and over 56% have had some college.

[YoungGunner55]

Its not necessarily the schools fault entirely, a lot of it are the teachers. I went to private school my entire life, and 1 english teacher gives out 100's and high 90's like his job. The other would have an extremely tough curriculum which consisted of frequent quiz's and tests. He would take off for everything and rarely gave high marks on essays. Its mostly teachers when they are allowed to basically be able to run the child's education anyway they want.

I think schools should have a set curriculum with a time frame that all teachers must obey. They should also provide what type of leniency they have with grading free-writing and short answer questions. Its basically a pass or fail system with different difficulty stages. advanced, regular, slower-paced. If the student is truly trying and is just unable to pass, they should not be failed. But when you have that little jerk-off in the class that ****s around the whole time, he should be failed, given detentions, and possibly sent to summer school, its the only way to govern them.

Not trying to play the race card but a large percentage of low education curriculum are due to minorities. I live somewhat close to a largely populated dark-skinned city. Their schools receive a god-awful amount of funding from the government. kids are provided with free breakfast, lunch, snacks, everything, even supplies and clothes. Not saying anything is wrong with that, but when the graduation rate is at 50-65% whats the point in dumping all the money in that school while a predominately white/light skinned school with 90%+ graduation rate is suffering from budget cuts, lack of teachers/supplies, and poor funding.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Originally Posted by mnp8nt

Where are you getting your figures, 2001? 30% of Americans have a bachelors degree and over 56% have had some college.

Because that was the point...

[mnp8nt]

Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin

Because that was the point...

That you make up **** to support your positions, yeah. It was the point. Irony killed the cat.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Originally Posted by mnp8nt

That you make up **** to support your positions, yeah. It was the point. Irony killed the cat.

Wikipedia: Educational Attainment in the USA
"In 2005, the proportion of the population having finished high school and the percentage of those having earned bachelor's degrees remained at an all-time high, while the growth in both categories has slowed down over the past two decades. The vast majority of the population, 85.2%, had finished high school and nearly a quarter, 22%, had earned a Bachelor's degree. The percentage of both college and high school graduates continued to increase since 2000."

[mnp8nt]

Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin

Wikipedia: Educational Attainment in the USA
"In 2005, the proportion of the population having finished high school and the percentage of those having earned bachelor's degrees remained at an all-time high, while the growth in both categories has slowed down over the past two decades. The vast majority of the population, 85.2%, had finished high school and nearly a quarter, 22%, had earned a Bachelor's degree. The percentage of both college and high school graduates continued to increase since 2000."

Ah okay, you are just using figures that are half a decade old to support your positions - same difference. The Official Census figures states 23.7% had a bachelors degree in 2005 and 49% had some college or more. The Census changed it's methodology from surveying 15 and older to 18 and older. I'm going to trust the following over questionable wikipedia content:

Originally Posted by Care2 News

For the first time in the history of the US, 30 percent of the 61 million Americans over 25 years old have bachelor’s degrees. The new statistics, which are based on figures released on Thursday by the Census Bureau, reveal an increase in people acquiring degrees that began in the mid-1990s. As of March 2011, 30.4 percent of Americans now have at least a bachelor’s degree while 10.9 percent have a graduate degree; ten years earlier, 26.2 percent and 8.7 percent did, respectively. All told, the percentage of Americans with bachelor’s degrees has grown by 15.4 percent in the past decade.

The media, the candidates and public policy institutions bombard the public with content regarding the issues. The public is pretty well informed and I would bet that a majority of registered voters fall into the "educated" figure. Why should you care? Public policy affects everyone in some way.

[katsung47]

The real reason is the Feds need Obama's new Health care reform. There is nothing they care if people can benefit from it or not. They just want it to frame a target in their case with which they have created OKC bombing, 911 attack to get the Patriot Act.

You can see it from the surprise turn around of the Chief Justice Roberts.

726. The surprise turnaround of Chief Justice (7/4/2012)

On 6/28, Supreme Court issued a pass for Obama's Health care policy. What surprised people was Chief Justice Roberts sided with four liberal justices in voting 5-4 to declare the law's "individual mandate" constitutional.


Why did John Roberts, a Bush appointee who generally votes with his conservative colleagues, suddenly change his opinion to vote with the liberal? Just three months ago, he still opposed that "individual mandate" law.

Chief Justice Roberts: Can government require you to buy a cell phone?

Mar. 27, 2012 - Chief Justice Roberts asks the Solicitor General Verrilli if the government can require the purchase of cell phones for emergency services, just as the health-care law requires for health insurance.(The Washington Post)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...reS_video.html

There are different theories about this mysterious turnaround. Mostly were from disinformation office of the Feds to cover up their puppet Roberts. None could solve the puzzle. I know why - the Feds want that "individual mandate" provision. When the Feds want to put Kat Sung under surveillance, they forced the law makers passing through the Patriot Act. (Through OKC bombing and 911 bombing) When the Feds want to restrict Kat Sung in US, they activate the TSA search, (blocking leaving from air flight) blocking the entering of Canada and Mexico; (by "Operation Fast and Furious") see "697. TSA search, Canada and Mexico (12/11/2011)". Now when they want Kat Sung to have a health insurance, they activate their proxy- John Roberts.

Six years ago when Roberts was selected as Chief Justice, I have written already,
"344. Roberts, a secret agent of D.O.J. (9/18/05)"
http://katsung47.yuku.com/topic/4/Th...the-USA?page=4
This case proves I was very, very accurate at that judgement.

I'll talk about why the Feds want that "individual mandate" provision.

[F1VENOM]

That site hurt my head.

My American nightmare

New high tech weapons such like radiation material, microwave kill people without trace, leaving death look like heart attack, blood cancer, etc.

In 1991, because an acquaintance was arrested for drug smuggling, I was under surveillance by law enforcement agent. They used isotope money as tracer which hurt my health badly. After I complained this I found I was frequently under microwave radiation which cooked my blood, solidified them to form clog, caused severe chest pain. As pressure intensified,I could not bear the torture of EM wave, I went abroad in 1999. There I still was under surveillance of local police. On Mar. 22 2000, attempts of frame me up to a drug case forced me seeking political asylum in Thailand.

What made an U.S. citizen drift abroad and ask for political asylum? The black box practice covered criminal activities of U.S. law enforcement agency. New high tech weapons enable them to murder people without being aware of. To prevent U.S. become a fascist country, an independent organization which can check the conduct of law enforcement agency is necessary.

It was a big case ten years ago.

I was a seller in San Jose Berryessa Flea Market. I sell porcelain figuring. On Sept. 1990, a lady, named Mrs. Chen, came to my stand, saying that she was an importer of porcelain. I bought some merchandise from her because she offered a good price.

On June. 1991, Mrs. Chen was arrested for drug smuggling. The newspaper titled: " Heroin bust called U.S. record".(See San Jose Mercury, 6-21-1991). There was a lot of harassment since then. I was followed, bugged, business turned downward, etc..

[katsung47]

742. Help Obama to win the second term (10/24/2012)

The recent Gallup poll shows that Mitt Romney leads over President Barack Obama in president Campaign. That’s just a gimmick to cheat people. The election result is pre-decided. Obama will stay for his second term. It doesn’t relate to any politics. It is for a case of the Feds. They need Obama’s Health Reform that they forced Chief Justice Roberts to change his mind in June to pass the “Health Reform”. (see “ 726. The surprise turnaround of Chief Justice (7/4/2012)”)

To keep Obama to stay in his seat, they have to create an economic background that favors him. Two months before voting date, in early September, we saw European bank chief Draghi said the bank would buy the bond with no limit. How could this affect US president election?

Draghi helps out Obama campaign

By Robin Harding in Washington September 6, 2012


Barack Obama’s chances of re-election as US president rose on Thursday and the words that did it were not his but Mario Draghi’s.

Long before Mr Obama stood up to accept the Democratic nomination in Charlotte, North Carolina, the head of the European Central Bank had sketched out a new plan to buy the bonds of troubled eurozone countries.


That will not move the polls; it will not move a single vote. But Mr Draghi has lowered the gravest of risks to Mr Obama: a pre-election meltdown in the eurozone that would have blown up banks, pulverised Wall Street, and routed a fragile US economy back into recession.

If that happened, it would not be Mr Obama’s fault, but he would get the blame. Just as the failure of Lehman Brothers doomed his rival John McCain in 2008, a eurozone implosion would create economic odds too great for Mr Obama to surmount.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bc1cf...#axzz261Uy9nmA

Within days, Federal Reserve Chief Bernanke pushed out another QE which would push up economy temporarily but hurt it in long term with inflation. The Republicans felt it immediately. The timing of issuing QE3 is not a coincidence. It helps Obama.

Fed risks political fallout from QE3

By Robin Harding and James Politi in Washington September 14, 2012

Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate, duly opened fire on Friday after the Fed began an open-ended third round of quantitative easing (QE3), under which it will buy $40bn of mortgage-backed securities a month.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b7de9...#axzz26Vualgix

QE3 will create another housing bubble.

Marc Faber: Fed's QE forever is ludicrous; no country has become rich from consumption

Source: BI-ME , Author: Constantine Gardner Fri September 14, 2012

"Asset prices will go up and the money will flow to the Mayfair Economy," he said, defining the latter as an "economy of the rich people whose assets prices go up and whose net worth increases" without any trickle down benefit to the real economy.

What you have is a small economy that is booming and the majority of the economy is being damaged by QE, Faber explains.

Faber sees the Fed's monetary policies over the last 15 years as mainly responsible for the various asset bubbles (Nasdaq, real estate etc...) leading to the subprime crisis in 2007. "The money printers and the neo-Keynesians interventionists are responsible for the crisis, reckons Faber, and people should know this."

Dr Bernanke's attempt to boost growth and reduce unemployment will end up, according to Dr. Faber, in a fiscal Grand Canyon with never ending deficits, the majority of the economy being damaged, the man in the street facing higher prices and losing his job.

http://www.bi-me.com/main.php?id=593...=62&cg=4&mset=

Faber sees the Fed's monetary policies over the last 15 years as mainly responsible for the various asset bubbles (Nasdaq, real estate etc...), the Nasdaq bubble is the dot.com bubble, I talked about these two bubbles from #733 to #739. And the Federal Reserve now continues to create the third one. At the purpose to help the Feds to remove the hot potatoes in their hands to the ordinary people.

743. Create a hoax of a better off economy (10/29/2012)

Three months before the voting date, the unemployment rate was still high that it made the re-election unlikely for Obama.

What Does an 8.3 Percent Unemployment Rate Mean for the Election?

By: Jon King | August 5, 2012

Many pundits (including this one) have made the point that if the unemployment rate is at 8% or higher that the president will have an uphill battle to win the election.

The reason why 8% is such a hurdle is that no modern president has ever won re-election when unemployment was over 8%. Actually, if one wants to take an even more skeptical view, they could say that no president since Roosevelt has won re-election with unemployment over 7.2%.

http://newstalkkgvo.com/what-does-8-...-the-election/

It’s hard to convince people the unemployment rate would drop below 7.2% in two months from 8.3%. But they still could manage to get a figure of 7.8% in order to make Obama’s re-election more reasonable.

Fact Check: Labor Secretary Solis Misleads on Jobs Revisions

by Joel B. Pollak 5 Oct 2012

Suspicion about the federal government's September jobs report has fallen on Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, who appeared on CNBC this morning and defended the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), claiming--falsely--that upward revisions of 86,000 jobs were from the private sector. In fact, the new number is entirely accounted for by upwards revisions to state and federal government payrolls.

The BLS reported that while only 114,000 jobs were created in September--which would have translated into a rise in unemployment from 8.1% to 8.2%--the unemployment rate fell dramatically to 7.8%. That unusual drop is the fastest in nearly three decades, and was unexpected even in the rosiest predictions.

One reason for the rise was an upward revision of 86,000 to the July and August jobs numbers--all of which came from a 91,000 increase in the estimate of public sector jobs. Private sector job estimates were actually revised downward by 5,000.

In addition, the BLS reported a large rise in the number of part-time jobs, adding 600,000 jobs to the total--a dramatic increase of 7.5%, not explained by any other economic indicators--and raising questions about whether the government had changed the way it counted part-time workers.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ers-Questioned

Nobody can verify the figure. It’s all under their control. They could cover up the truth of 911 attack. They could make Bin Laden died twice. So what to maintain a puppet president? If they could have kept a war criminal (who activated a war with a lie) to stay on his second term, what’s the problem for another puppet? All they have to do is to create a hoax of a better off economy for several months then blame everything on the coming financial cliff.

[katsung47]

744. Manipulation in Mother Nature’s guise (11/7/2012)

The Feds like to play the God’s role to control people. In 2004, when they planned to keep a proved liar on chair for his second term, they said it was the “God’s will”.
Pat Robertson predicted "I think George Bush is going to win in a walk, I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way."
Eight years later, the Feds want to shape up the way for Obama. They play the God’s will in another way – in Mother Nature’s guise.

If you still remember how storm Issac had disturbed the GOP Convention and suppressed Republican’s spirit.

GOP fears ghost of Katrina at RNC 2012
http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz2555svXio

It was so coincident that Limbaugh alleged:

Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: ‘The Hurricane Center Is … Obama’
By Stephen Lacey on Aug 27, 2012
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ama/?mobile=nc

Then another coincidence came:

Conspiracy Theorists Say Obama Engineered Hurricane Sandy
By Elizabeth Flock October 29, 2012

As Hurricane Sandy blasts the eastern seaboard just over a week before Election Day, a number of conspiracy theorists have decided President Barack Obama engineered the mega-storm to secure his re-election.

InfoWars.com, TheIntelHub.com, and ConsfearacyNewz all posted stories over the last several days alleging that the The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, helped the president engineer Sandy.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...urricane-sandy

Tuesday, Oct 30, 2012 05:28 AM PDT
So what does Romney do now?

If the hurricane freezes the presidential race in place, it's not good news for the GOP nominee
By Steve Kornacki

For Romney, the downside is obvious: Sandy has for now frozen the race in place – and where the race is right now isn’t good for him. If the election were held this moment, Barack Obama would probably be returned to office for a second term. The president is at best tied with Romney in the national horserace and at worst behind by a point, but he holds clear advantages in the most important battleground states and is much better-positioned to reach 270 electoral votes.

Romney needs to shore up states like Virginia and Colorado and erase stubborn gaps in Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa before next Tuesday. Momentum alone doesn’t seem like it will get him there. He surged in the wake of the first debate in Denver, but the race has settled into place since then. For lack of a better term, Romney is in need of some kind of jolt that would fix his swing state problem.

Sandy severely complicates this task. For one thing, it has overtaken the presidential campaign as the top national story and will continue to do so for several days. Obama, as the president, has an obvious place in this story. The actions of the White House and the response of the federal government are integral to the clean-up, and Obama has a platform to showcase his presidential leadership. Romney, though, has no official role, and really can’t force his way into the story. There’s also the matter of unseemliness – it wouldn’t look too good for Romney to keep right on campaigning as the rest of the country takes stock of a natural disaster. Thus did Romney cancel events yesterday and again today.

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/so_w...romney_do_now/

745. Manipulation the election (11/12/2012)

Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division
Published: Wednesday, 7 Nov 2012

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49729998

Watch the date of the announcement. The day next to the election day. Big lay off took some time to plan. Boeing is a big firm that under the control of the Feds. They don’t want to hurt Obama’s campaign so they sealed the bad news until he is re-elected. Same tactic was seen in other areas.

Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
November 10, 2012

Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

http://government.brevardtimes.com/2...-released.html

Unemployment generally correlates with food-stamp enrollment. The Feds made it a sharp drop two months before the election day from 8.3% to 7.8%. I alleged the figure was rigged(see #743). It’s a big conflict to the Food Stamp Enrollment data. How the sharp drop of unemployment could cause a record high food stamp enrollment? To prevent the contradiction to hurt Obama’s election, we saw an unusual delay of Food stamp enrollment data releasing.

Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
November 10, 2012
Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

http://government.brevardtimes.com/2...-released.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/attach...dstamps912.jpg

[katsung47]

746. GOP is obedient to the Feds (11/21/2012)

With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debate

Much of Latin America was dismayed that they got only a glancing mention in Romney and Obama's final presidential debate.

By Sara Miller Llana | Christian Science Monitor – 10/23/2012

That means no candidate talked about the drug trade, despite historic violence playing out in Mexico, much of it along the 2,000-mile border that the US shares.

http://news.yahoo.com/60-000-dead-me...141857504.html

So far, the death toll in Syria is about 30,000, much less than 60,000. The media and US politicians beat the drum on civilians’ death there but keep a blind eye on its neighbor Mexico. Are the lives of the Muslim more valuable than Mexicans? No, it’s because this topic would certain to draw out a scandal – Operation Fast and Furious. It’s an Achilles’ heel of the Obama’s administration. Why the GOP and Romney hadn’t taken the advantage on this issue in election campaign? Because it’s the Feds that control this nation and the election. Eric Holder and D.O.J. committed the crime to supply the weapons to Mexican drug gangs and made Mexico a slaughtering field. The republican dares not to offend its master. So the issue was left alone.

The cause that leads the Feds to keep Obama on his chair is they need his Healthcare for their case. (see “726. The surprise turnaround of Chief Justice (7/4/2012)”. Obama is the rare President who could be re-elected when unemployment was above 7.4%. After the failure, the Republican recognizes the intention of the Feds and bows down:

Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land'

By Michael O'Brien, NBC News 11/8/2012



Republicans' efforts to undo President Barack Obama's health care reform law appear to have come to an end, as House Speaker John Boehner described it Thursday as the "law of the land."

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news...-the-land?lite

[TheSilentAssassin]

Originally Posted by katsung47

The cause that leads the Feds to keep Obama on his chair is they need his Healthcare for their case.

You often use the word "feds" in very different contexts. This point has been addressed in several other threads (shown below). Who exactly is the "feds" to you?

Originally Posted by The Inflicted

Who do you even mean by "the Feds"?

The federal government?
The Federal Reserve Bank?
The FBI?

???