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Old 01-16-2013, 08:47 PM #1
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in the second season with the 1st episode they got a custom paintball gun not sure which does anyone know? they said value of 800
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:51 PM #2
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just saw it said something to do with spyder emp or esp
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:12 PM #3
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I saw that too and was curious to see what other people say. First the hopper is worth $50 max and it's running on CO2 not even air. And it said that changing velocity is not on any markers anymore so it's outlawed and got really confused.

My opinion that marker set up is worth $200 max. Would like to see what other people say though
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:37 PM #4
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100$ max, its a crock of ****.....
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:22 PM #5
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I saw it too and I was like how can they charge that much for that gun? IT is not worth that.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:29 AM #6
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I watched the entire segment. Everyone that opened their mouth was a ****ing retard. That dialogue had to have been written by the same ****s that wrote "Hackers".

Some gems.
"We got the customized handle, the customized loader..."
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"And you can adjust the velocity?" "Yeah, that's why they don't allow it in competition anymore."
The retardation in this exchange is extreme.

"This this *is* the top-of-the-line..."
Yeah, no. It's a bone-stock Kingman Spyder Flash. It doesn't even have a regulator, just an expansion chamber.

"This paintball gun is actually pretty *****in'."
Shut your pie-hole before any more **** comes falling out.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:03 PM #7
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Link to the segment? I would like to watch this. Is this comparable to "storage wars"? Like if they found a crappy spyder in storage wars and said "yeah with this 800 dollar paintball gun we just barely broke even on this unit", is it kinda like that?
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:55 PM #8
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Link to the segment? I would like to watch this. Is this comparable to "storage wars"? Like if they found a crappy spyder in storage wars and said "yeah with this 800 dollar paintball gun we just barely broke even on this unit", is it kinda like that?
Here is a link to the entire episode. The segment with the marker is the first trade they make after the intro segment.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:03 PM #9
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agreed the anno on it is sick though
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:23 AM #10
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I saw that show and was calling BS as soon as they started talking about it's value.

If I remember correctly, and this is going back a couple of years now, that marker came with that splash anno, but it was more of a special edition upgrade of a Spyder TL? I could be wrong. Everyone else is absolutely right about it being worth maybe $100 plus the hopper. They were also touting the semi, 3 round, and full auto abilities. But all of that comes from the electronic trigger frame which is still based off of a mechanical trigging of the bolt release rather than the firing of an electronic solenoid as most modern electronic markers. So even that is limited in speed compared to any modern gun. It looked like it only had a 10 inch barrel and when they were shooting it, every shot was curving off target.

As to the "banned in competition", at the rear of the gun is the velocity adjustment and as per the 2012 PSP rule book:
pg. 22 9.3.9 A marker with settings, whether mechanical, pneumatic, or electronic, that may be adjusted without the use of tools to allow the marker to operate in an illegal manner is illegal.75 A player who operates buttons, switches, valves or other adjustable device on a marker on the field of play without the permission of a judge will be assessed a minor penalty.
A player who operates buttons, switches, valves or other adjustable device on a marker on the field of play after being instructed to provide the marker to an official, or prior to being instructed to do so, will receive a gross penalty and that player will receive a minor suspension.


So yes that particular marker had a velocity adjustment knob on the rear of the ram that can be adjusted without tools. There is supposed to be a counter turn allen/hex bolt that keeps the velocity from being increased "accidentally" while on the field. But those are so small and they commonly fell out. Hence why marker manufacturers went away from using that design.

Finally since you can't cap the firing rate in any mode, that would make it illegal as well.

Hmm, let me buy a "tournament" marker that I can't USE in any tournament series. GREAT IDEA!

As to it being banned somehow increasing it's value is like saying an aluminum bat is more valuable because it is banned from use in the MLB!

I know this from first hand experience, TV producers think everyone that watches their shows are morons as a majority and that they can get away with saying or showing inaccurate things, because it is only the very slight minority that is actually aware of the truth and is even viewing their programming.

Just a quick example: I was working on a film in the Bahamas and I was one of the camera men, but my background is Emergency Medicine. We were shooting a scene and there were just so many inaccuracies that I tried to point it out to the director whom I had established a fairly good relationship with, but the producer (his wife) fired me the next day because I was "being insubordinate and slowing down the shooting schedule over menial details that no one will ever recognize."
Needless to say the film got bad reviews and some said that they kept getting pulled out of the story when they saw something they new was wrong. It never made distribution. I got paid, they didn't. Who's laughing now?
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:33 AM #12
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i gotta find this episode?!
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:04 AM #13
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LOL when I saw that I was like YEA OK SPYDER 800$
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:32 PM #14
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I spit out my food when I saw that episode.
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pretty pissed it's not up bro lol
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:48 PM #16
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they traded for a snake... Should have traded the spyder for an actual spider. haha
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:54 PM #17
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It seems like they also add 700% to every price totally fake just like storage wars
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:28 PM #18
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haha you can tell that no one on there knew what they were talking about.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:25 PM #19
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If anyone cares, the episode is back up.

The episode in question
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:29 PM #20
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Its a spyder flash with ESP frame in case anyone was wondering. Not even worth $100. I got a laugh out of it and immediately searched the show online and this thread came up. lol
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:02 PM #21
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I saw that episode a couple months ago and laughed so hard. A really old spyder that they thought was worth $800 because it could "change the velocity"
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