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Old 09-16-2012, 02:35 PM #1
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Best mech gun for speedball/recball?

help a brotha out. Whats the best mech gun for speedball?
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:08 PM #2
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Maybe a mech Ion? Tippmann crossover?

Why do you want a mech for speedball?
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:48 PM #3
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Hmm...I would have to say go with the Spyder Sonix Pro. It's one of the better Spyder markers I've come across, with an 89 frame and a 12" stock barrel, it shoots amazingly. I've owned one and played both speedball and woodsball with it and it's absolutely amazing.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:51 PM #4
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Cocker if you know what you are doing. If not go get a Tippman.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:37 PM #5
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:41 PM #6
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I would have put the mag in there but most are too air inefficient to be used.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:41 PM #7
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Automags all day, my go to mechs.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:14 PM #8
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I would say an Azodin Kaos. They seem to shoot great for being a mech and run for under $100.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:20 PM #9
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****, I completely forgot about mags. Mea culpa!
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:11 PM #10
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I was shooting an Automag RT Classic all day today. Best mech ever built in my opinion.

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Old 09-16-2012, 07:20 PM #11
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How about whatever fits you best? These people can't tell you what you're going to like the best, anyway.

For me, it's a pump.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:42 PM #12
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I love pumping, and I play pump. But when there are 6 players of equal ability on the field and 5 of them are shooting high ends, the pump player gets hammered.

The best mech depends on who you ask. The fastest is the Automag RT. But you can't use it most places. At 1100+psi input pressure it runs well over 25bps, 100% mechanical. Fact is 90% of loaders out there can't keep up with it. My best luck has been with upped Halos. Rotors can't come close. Now it is one of the most inefficient markers on the planet. I don't care, nor do most speedball players, because we just top off before each game. Takes 30 seconds. The downsides are that you can't shoot CO2 out of it and when you push the PSI past 1000 you can't control the BPS. If its shooting 28bps, that's just what its going to shoot until you lower the tank output pressure.

Autocockers are great, I've got a few of them, and they do well. They are pretty slow, I don't shoot much on the field anyway. Today I only shot a string one time, and that was because a douche bag was railing on kids with an E trigger A5. I picked up my Naughty Dog Shocker and put an end to it. He left the field after that game.

What I normally use is a stock Automag Classic. I don't have any problem shooting faces.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:49 PM #13
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I love pumping, and I play pump. But when there are 6 players of equal ability on the field and 5 of them are shooting high ends, the pump player gets hammered.
That's too bad if that's your experience, but going by your logic, I'm better than anyone I've ever played. I never feel outgunned with a pump, and frankly, lazy with an electronic gun.

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Old 09-16-2012, 08:14 PM #14
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I was going to put AutoCockers, but those are a little advanced for any beginner or even intermediate players. I play speedball and woodsball with a 2k4 Superstock (avvy pic) and it does me just fine. 10-12bps at the redline, I can keep up with a lot of other markers at the field, but it did take some doing to get it timed properly and leak-free.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:21 PM #15
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That's too bad if that's your experience, but going by your logic, I'm better than anyone I've ever played. I never feel outgunned with a pump, and frankly, lazy with an electronic gun.

Be careful what you present being perceived as fact instead of opinion.
If you play against yourself, one with a pump and the other with a electro, the pump will lose every time. That isn't opinion. If you hit 5 out of 10 targets you shoot at, you can rip off those shots in a second or less with a semi. You can not do that with a pump. Its an obvious statement, if the players are equal then the one shooting a faster gun will win. There is no reason a pumper will ever beat a semi if they are equal in skill.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:24 PM #16
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Different skill sets are needed. If I played pump against myself I would bet I would be more like 70/30 (electro/pump win)
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:34 PM #17
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Not really, I can shoot faces with my stock Automag Classic just as well as my Outkast pump. Difference is I can hit 2 faces with a semi in one snap.

Will the semi win every single time? Maybe not, but it will always be at a much higher percentage.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:36 PM #18
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Turning into a pump/semi vs thread. The OP asked for the best mech speedball marker and we can all agree pump isn't it.

noclue119, where do you play? I'm at Carnage every weekend.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:03 PM #19
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If you can convince the field to let you use it in fun mode, and you are mechanically inclined enough to keep it working (makes cockers seem simple and reliable), nothing I've ever used was as overwhelmingly effective as an AT85 in full auto with the hopper adapter magazine.

Pure mechanical full auto at 13 bps (give or take). Uses a chain driven magazine to pull paint up into the gun, and the hopper adapter places the hopper next to the gun (zero profile out of the right side of a bunker, and a respectable low profile out the left if you know how to do it). Looks nothing like any so called "speedball" gun so the other players tend to make dumb mistakes around it.




The down side is you practically need an engineering degree to trouble shoot any problems, and the gun wears out key components every season. My personal AT85 needs an entire new magazine, and they're not cheap.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:24 AM #20
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that is a awesome gun lol!
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Autococker for sure, just be sure you know how to work on them.
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