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Old 04-27-2013, 05:20 PM #1975
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40% cdr is part of zac's end build. He even gets 40% mid game if they have enough AP to warrant an early spirit visage. Spirit of the spectral wraith (10%) + spirit visage (20%) + locket (10%, or you can just sit on a kindle gem for a while). Also you get 4% through masteries.

If a zac is getting blown up mid or late game because his E got interrupted then he probably built retarded.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:08 PM #1976
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People don't Normay get 40% early on though, but even at 7s you can still be taken for a ton of damage before you're reading to jump in again. There's the stuns that get him mid jump that mess him up ally where you can't go right into an uli and the enemy can back off a bit.
yeah idk about all that cdr thhat early to be exact thats a bit too much haha
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:09 PM #1977
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so what is everyone currently ranked?
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Only when you snowball and they have double AP so you can rush a visage after spirit of the spectral wraith. In Hector's original posts he was talking about team fights. I assumed he meant late game as most fights mid game aren't true team fights.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:16 PM #1979
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so what is everyone currently ranked?
im silver 3, could prob be higher but I only duo with my one friend, that and ive been finding dota2 a lot more enjoyable as of late
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EUW smurf is going nicely
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:50 PM #1981
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I stopped playing ranked. I did when I first hit 30 and had no idea how to play so my elo for s3 started in bronze 5 lol... im 3 now in a promotion but I haven't played ranked in over two weeks for ranked. Ive gotten kind of bored of playing league recently tbh. I still do 1v1s with a couple friends and arams but normal are just so boring lately. I find myself watching streams more than playing.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:55 PM #1982
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40% cdr is part of zac's end build. He even gets 40% mid game if they have enough AP to warrant an early spirit visage. Spirit of the spectral wraith (10%) + spirit visage (20%) + locket (10%, or you can just sit on a kindle gem for a while). Also you get 4% through masteries.

If a zac is getting blown up mid or late game because his E got interrupted then he probably built retarded.
I've never seen a Zac go straight into that build. He's not going to get insta killed but if he drops fairly low before he's ready to do damage then he's not all that effective that fight.
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so what is everyone currently ranked?
Computer doesn't feel like running the client in the middle of my 1-1 series so back down to silver 2... Again...

Edit: now it's saying there's a problem with "Maestro" any clue what that is anyone?
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:39 PM #1983
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Let me restate what I have already said twice. Getting spirit visage on Zac as a second item is a no brainer vs heavy AP. He usually gets it every game even if the other team has only one underfed AP carry because it increases the spell vamp from spectral wraith and the heal from his passive.

My normal build vs bruiser top and jungle and an AP mid is getting a sunfire before spirit visage. Most times I will get a kindle gem before starting on the sunfire giving me 24% cdr mid game and 40% if I have a blue.
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Let me restate what I have already said twice. Getting spirit visage on Zac as a second item is a no brainer vs heavy AP. He usually gets it every game even if the other team has only one underfed AP carry because it increases the spell vamp from spectral wraith and the heal from his passive.

My normal build vs bruiser top and jungle and an AP mid is getting a sunfire before spirit visage. Most times I will get a kindle gem before starting on the sunfire giving me 24% cdr mid game and 40% if I have a blue.
Sprite visage is a good buy I'm not denying that, but you're saying it for one situation that general doesn't happen frequently (or atleast in my games) that's something you'll see after the sunfire, but you're talking 10k into a game maybe.
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That's why explained my build vs a more common team comp. Sitting on a kindle gem while working on the sunfire for the cheap cdr.
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getting real tired of your ****, silver 2. other game i lost started 10-1-4; and the enemy darius was 20-0
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People who duo and think they are pro should die. Lost so many games to duos even if they aren't bot.
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how do i hold all these pentakills. then again i was fed as hell
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ive had a few stolen as well makes me so sad
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I had my first ranked penta stolen by a darius yesterday
I surprisingly haven't seen any penta steals lately. So many games you see people get quadras but the first kill went to someone else or the other team is about to lose and the 1 surviving isnt a good guy and gives it to you.

Did hit silver 1 yesterday, got an invade on a fids jungler and our cait got a triple kill, then just camped top since mid stomped. Love free games like that
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4rth times the charm right lol.
4 S1 promotion matches in 4 days.
Its like riot is personally following me like here you go ez to get in promotion......hahahaha **** you back down again.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:14 PM #1994
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4rth times the charm right lol.
4 S1 promotion matches in 4 days.
Its like riot is personally following me like here you go ez to get in promotion......hahahaha **** you back down again.
5th was the lucky one for me. I'll probably be on most of tomorrow if you want to duo. I main adc and support with some jax, anivia, and and cho thrown in there
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