[PBloler]

Originally Posted by DJ Bob

I know how to play him. And I didn't say weak. I said weaker than talon. talon can just kill people when he wants to. Kha has to be more careful unless they do something stupid (which most people do).

That's all true but Talon can't really insta gib til 6 whereas Kha starts to poke hard at 6 and if he wears his lane opponent down he can all in them. I think Kha is stronger in laning than Talon in general because he can poke and farm from range easier. Talon is not as safe as a first pick for the reason that he relies on killing his lane opponent and can't just safely farm until mid game. Talon however does win his lane harder than Kha if it's the right matchup. Ex: if you compare a Talon vs Lux lane to a Kha vs Lux lane Talon should ideally come out of lane with a kill or two whereas Kha will only be farming (not taking into account ganks from the jungler).

[DJ Bob (Banned)]

That's why I didn't say Talon is safer...he's stronger in a lot of matchups. Easier to kill people if it's in his favor but it can also go terribly wrong.

[azhector]

What it seems to me is talon has to have good farm to be useful. Khazix can somehow fall behind and just max his spike and be a poke champ until he gets some damage.

[PBloler]

Originally Posted by azhector

What it seems to me is talon has to have good farm to be useful. Khazix can somehow fall behind and just max his spike and be a poke champ until he gets some damage.

But Talon is easier to fall behind with in the first place.

Any tips on controlling yourself in chat? I'm at my wit's end here.

[DJ Bob (Banned)]

anyway we all agree that kha'zix>talon

when im getting too angry I just mute all 9 players in the game.

[orvilleredenbachers]

Originally Posted by Way2scary4u

Anyone know how to build talon?

pretty much with what the guy below you said. bruta then bt then bc lw and ga. I go with boots of mobi as well. situational after that although I tend to not go towards warmogs on him though.

Originally Posted by DJ Bob

anyway we all agree that kha'zix>talon

when im getting too angry I just mute all 9 players in the game.

never really got into muting people only time I do is if I have a top laner who spams mia every time the enemy top lane walks into any bush so annoying

also what your guys opinions on stacking 2 BTs on an adc?

[Way2scary4u]

Originally Posted by orvilleredenbachers

pretty much with what the guy below you said. bruta then bt then bc lw and ga. I go with boots of mobi as well. situational after that although I tend to not go towards warmogs on him though.

never really got into muting people only time I do is if I have a top laner who spams mia every time the enemy top lane walks into any bush so annoying

Lol

[DJ Bob (Banned)]

Originally Posted by orvilleredenbachers

also what your guys opinions on stacking 2 BTs on an adc?

good idea if you

A) want to get no crit multiplicity and do no damage

or

B) penetrate no armor and do no damage

edit: almost forgot

C) have no defensive item and do no damage because you die

[PBloler]

Originally Posted by orvilleredenbachers

pretty much with what the guy below you said. bruta then bt then bc lw and ga. I go with boots of mobi as well. situational after that although I tend to not go towards warmogs on him though.

never really got into muting people only time I do is if I have a top laner who spams mia every time the enemy top lane walks into any bush so annoying

also what your guys opinions on stacking 2 BTs on an adc?

I just tried disabling all chat in normal games and did have an affect on my attitude. I could no longer "/all gg bot" or whatever. It even made me second guess typing it in team chat.

There's no reason to get 2 BTs on any ADC. There is only one ADC who stacks damage and that's MF but her build is generally BT>BC>LW>situational.

[Sand6452]

The second I get mad, I just mute the whole game. I generally just ignore the chat or turn my music up louder and it kind of makes it go away. Just don't feed into the troll/angry twelve year old and everything usually works out.

[PBloler]

Originally Posted by Sand6452

The second I get mad, I just mute the whole game. I generally just ignore the chat or turn my music up louder and it kind of makes it go away. Just don't feed into the troll/angry twelve year old and everything usually works out.

I need some good music to listen too while playing I'm sure that'll help a lot too. I just need to find a playlist that is not too lyrical but will still help me take my mind off of in game stress.

[Impy912]

http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Action+Epic/68113254

a playlist of epic music made by a starcraft pro. A lot of good stuff

[azhector]

There's never a time where 2 BT will maximize damage tbh. I think ie/BT/shiv or pd/LW/boots/defensive is go to build minus maybe Corki and ez.

[orvilleredenbachers]

god most exhausting game ever, 71 minutes. our vayne ran around trying to solo the world and kept getting caught. we won though thank god, really starting to enjoy fizz.

[DJ Bob (Banned)]

Originally Posted by azhector

There's never a time where 2 BT will maximize damage tbh. I think ie/BT/shiv or pd/LW/boots/defensive is go to build minus maybe Corki and ez.

What about 3? At one point I won a 2v4 by ulting and then lifestealing with burst of speed. In retrospect I should have upgraded to hydra for aoe lifesteal.

[freddyt]

so if i win a couple games in a row do i get more LP for each win? i got 20,21, and 27 in my 3 games. also, can you move down divisions? i ****ed around on my friends account and lost 3 in a row and had -3 LP lol.

[PBloler]

Originally Posted by freddyt

so if i win a couple games in a row do i get more LP for each win? i got 20,21, and 27 in my 3 games. also, can you move down divisions? i ****ed around on my friends account and lost 3 in a row and had -3 LP lol.

The LP gain is based off of your hidden elo. As you win games your hidden elo goes up and the higher your hidden elo the faster you will gain LP. Yes you can be demoted which is also based on your hidden elo if you lose enough of it.

I'll check out that playlist when I get home.

[azhector]

@dj bob- the question was asked for adc's, sorry for not clarifying that in my response. On front line people I guess you can get away with it if you just wind up bursting their carries hard and being tanky enough. Especially since Fiora can just ulti when low and heal up.

[dualimpact]

I listen to classical or trance real low, it's soothing and seems to make me focus on the game instead of a song

[azhector]

Originally Posted by dualimpact

I listen to classical or trance real low, it's soothing and seems to make me focus on the game instead of a song

Yea I normally have di.com or my own playlists I have. Usually chill/trance but it depends if I'm trying to stay up or not.

[pballler2269]

Any 1300+ want to duo tonight? Need to get my smurf gold