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Old 01-01-2013, 06:19 PM #1093
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What did you do as soon as you got those kills and use your advantage? Or how about a link to the game so we can see you truly are a pro player and you couldn't help 4 mentally challenged teammates win a game and got flat out screwed over.
He can't control uncooperative teammates. And whether or not what he said is true (I find it hard to believe for a team to pick 3 late game hyper carries) it would be impossible to win late vs karth, jax, and vayne.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:24 PM #1094
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He can't control uncooperative teammates. And whether or not what he said is true (I find it hard to believe for a team to pick 3 late game hyper carries) it would be impossible to win late vs karth, jax, and vayne.
Normals/lower ELOs tend do whatever they want when it comes to team comp.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:45 PM #1095
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He can't control uncooperative teammates. And whether or not what he said is true (I find it hard to believe for a team to pick 3 late game hyper carries) it would be impossible to win late vs karth, jax, and vayne.
Assuming he can't control them, he can still get them fed. It doesn't sound to me like he roamed at all until the other team decided the laning phase was over.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:49 PM #1096
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Assuming he can't control them, he can still get them fed. It doesn't sound to me like he roamed at all until the other team decided the laning phase was over.
Roaming as a top laner is risky in general, if you don't get kills or take objectives you just let your enemy catch back up. Being against a Jax and knowing your team is uncooperative it's pretty retarded to roam. A lane swap might not have been a bad idea considering it would have been irelia vs vayne and a support.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:14 PM #1097
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Roaming as a top laner is risky in general, if you don't get kills or take objectives you just let your enemy catch back up. Being against a Jax and knowing your team is uncooperative it's pretty retarded to roam. A lane swap might not have been a bad idea considering it would have been irelia vs vayne and a support.
I meant Venace when he was playing Ori. She's such a strong ganker, and her mid game+ganking should have been more than enough to get her team started. Idiots or not.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:17 PM #1098
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I meant Venace when he was playing Ori. She's such a strong ganker, and her mid game+ganking should have been more than enough to get her team started. Idiots or not.
Ori isn't really a roaming mid in the way kat, eve, and pre nerf diana were. Ori is based off of winning the lane and farming then dominating mid and late game.
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I meant Venace when he was playing Ori. She's such a strong ganker, and her mid game+ganking should have been more than enough to get her team started. Idiots or not.
The 21 assists didn't show that I was roaming?
Like I said, it was basically 4/5ths of all my teams kills.
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Ori isn't really a roaming mid in the way kat, eve, and pre nerf diana were. Ori is based off of winning the lane and farming then dominating mid and late game.
She isn't the best roaming mid, but if he's as far ahead as he makes it sound, that won't matter.
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The 21 assists didn't show that I was roaming?
Like I said, it was basically 4/5ths of all my teams kills.
You can get assists past laning phase. Again, you haven't described this game well at all so it's hard to know.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:17 PM #1102
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Just saw an Ez get crushed bot by a draven early, so he went gauntlets and wound up coming back. Is this actually practical or was it just playing better through the game? I didnt really see the lane go by so has anyone tried this or have experience with it?
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:09 PM #1106
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Just saw an Ez get crushed bot by a draven early, so he went gauntlets and wound up coming back. Is this actually practical or was it just playing better through the game? I didnt really see the lane go by so has anyone tried this or have experience with it?
Frozen fist is getting nerfed because it is OP on ez. Idk what your elo is but this has been a problem for quite sometime. Build BT then frozen fist on ez and you can infinitely kite their whole team. Also an early bruta works well with the build.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:33 PM #1107
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Frozen fist is getting nerfed because it is OP on ez. Idk what your elo is but this has been a problem for quite sometime. Build BT then frozen fist on ez and you can infinitely kite their whole team. Also an early bruta works well with the build.
~1200 but ive been doing mostly normals. I've heard wings mention it on stream but I never saw it in one of my own games until today.
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Frozen fist is getting nerfed because it is OP on ez. Idk what your elo is but this has been a problem for quite sometime. Build BT then frozen fist on ez and you can infinitely kite their whole team. Also an early bruta works well with the build.
Chu was doing this on stream yesterday with AP Ez Mid. Didnt lose as far as I saw. He was messing around with builds but it was something like Manmune, Fist, DCap, etc.
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Chu was doing this on stream yesterday with AP Ez Mid. Didnt lose as far as I saw. He was messing around with builds but it was something like Manmune, Fist, DCap, etc.
I don't see it being viable on AP ez (which I know is really just for fun anyways) and here's why. Replacing lich bane with frozen fist greatly reduces AP ez's damage output but when used on AD ez to replace triforce it barely reduces his damage output and makes him able to take more punishment and kite better (kiting is much more important in adc's than it is in an ap mid).
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Chu was doing this on stream yesterday with AP Ez Mid. Didnt lose as far as I saw. He was messing around with builds but it was something like Manmune, Fist, DCap, etc.
Wasn't he smurfing? That doesn't prove it's strength, it just shows that hes so above his elo his mechanics will make up for his builds.
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Wasn't he smurfing? That doesn't prove it's strength, it just shows that hes so above his elo his mechanics will make up for his builds.
AP ez in general is just gimmicky and is a weak pick. Frozen fist however is OP on AD ez.
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AP ez in general is just gimmicky and is a weak pick. Frozen fist however is OP on AD ez.
I know AP ez is bad, my point was just because you see it on a stream doesn't make it good.
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