Originally Posted by DJ Bob
darius fell out of favor long ago..still kicks irelia's *** though.
It's hard to even say he's situational now, even though he counters Irelia and Olaf (being probably the 2 biggest uses for him) Olaf can farm fairly easily with axes and Irelia will just bounce back late game.
Originally Posted by PBloler
I didnt think about the 2v1 which is true, but he wasnt used by pros because hes easy to counter pick but i thought it wouldnt be so easy to counter him without jayce and rengar being crazy op but elise is kinda like the new jayce. She just pokes the **** out of you when you try to farm and when you are low enough from that and dont back she can finish you off unlike yorick.
It's not always counter pick the lane as it is also for team comps. Even if the lane goes even, someone more mobile and are more efficient in team fights and map pressence (such as jax, Shen, malph, singed etc)
I don't think Elise is really OP though. She's probably the best laning and zoning, but she isnt as suberb in team fights as jayce and rengar can be. So eventually her toplane opponent will bounce back and out scale her later on.
This is just how ive seen people play her at my elo, and wingsofdeath whose been playing her a lot has the same general idea. I think he said the biggest problem was getting enough time for your combos and being tanky enough to take the damage while still having enough damage to burst.
edit- found this link on the ipl stream, looks like fun if you had everyone do it.