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Old 11-05-2012, 06:07 PM #589
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Exactly.Try playing nasus like that, 20 min in the game with reverie hog and maybe level 2 boots. Ult and try to run to their back line and die instantly.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:18 PM #590
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Exactly.Try playing nasus like that, 20 min in the game with reverie hog and maybe level 2 boots. Ult and try to run to their back line and die instantly.
again, its very situational. it works well vs vayne, slow and run, lowers her mobility and she gets no AS
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again, its very situational. it works well vs vayne, slow and run, lowers her mobility and she gets no AS
In lane lol. First 20 min of game, maybe
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In lane lol. First 20 min of game, maybe
you aren't playing him as a tank. just like most other supports; drop your utility and stay in position.
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The NA LoL scene is completely ****ing pathetic at this point.


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Old 11-05-2012, 07:36 PM #594
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you aren't playing him as a tank. just like most other supports; drop your utility and stay in position.
Then you arent playing nasus as nasus. Dropping ur utility doesnt do **** if u cant follow up. Nunu has the same as/ms slow and an as/ms buff plus his ult making him the better version of nasus support.
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Then you arent playing nasus as nasus. Dropping ur utility doesnt do **** if u cant follow up. Nunu has the same as/ms slow and an as/ms buff plus his ult making him the better version of nasus support.
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so the ms difference favors nunu's team
the AS will favor nasus's team (again, especially if your goal is to shut down someone like vayne)
other utility-armor shred on nas (40) and some % health damage vs potentially very strong ulti on nunu, mostly to take up a CC or two.

so again, nunu will win in most cases, but if you can have a support shut down the damage of an adc, especially one like vayne, i would take it

no you arent playing nasus as this very tanky frontline guy who can just run into teamfights and catch up to an ad or ap carry and press q for a massive burst, but other tops can do the same thing more reliably through the whole game.

again, im not saying its the best support, im just saying it can work really well, and its a bonus when you have most players who don't know nasus well or even at all
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if you seriously think Nasus can support, you're ****ing retarded. Ashe has more utility than Nasus.

and if you're playing with people that don't even know the abilities of every champion, you can get away with anything.
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step 1, NEVER go to mobafire, use clgaming.net, solomid.net, lolpro.com for guides
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if you seriously think Nasus can support, you're ****ing retarded. Ashe has more utility than Nasus.

and if you're playing with people that don't even know the abilities of every champion, you can get away with anything.
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~12, ~14 have to quick engages... again, takes away all ability to trade, and for like the 3rd time, its not always the best choice, but it can be used.

there is a HUGE difference between knowing what his 4 abilities are, and knowing his trade damage, effects on you/teammate, presence, etc.
i think its safe to say everyone here knows all the champions kit, but i dont think we can all say how strong a champion such as twitch, or urgot, or karma are at certain parts of the game. its just a perk to it.

edit: i wasnt looking for guides, i just knew they had the info on the spells. i dont think any of those builds on any of those sites are always the best, i generally look at a couple then experiment. they really only show you what items are generally strong
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The NA LoL scene is completely ****ing pathetic at this point.


Also it's Renekton free week. Can't wait
It's like all the NA teams are out there playing not to lose. There is little to no aggression or outside the box thinking. Personally I enjoyed every second of the two sets for 1st place between Najin Sword and Azubu Blaze. Their style of play kept me on the edge of ny seat constantly, if only there would have been more lvl 1 fights.
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step 1, NEVER go to mobafire, use clgaming.net, solomid.net, lolpro.com for guides
I find that the guides on mobafire (provided you find a good guide of course) are actually much more helpful and have a MUCH better set up than any of those sites.
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i went to 12 minutes, watched nunu towerdive caitlyn, and stopped watching
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It's like all the NA teams are out there playing not to lose. There is little to no aggression or outside the box thinking. Personally I enjoyed every second of the two sets for 1st place between Najin Sword and Azubu Blaze. Their style of play kept me on the edge of ny seat constantly, if only there would have been more lvl 1 fights.
Super secret: the top LoL teams are currently playing the game like it's dota. Taking towers, 2v1 lanes, aggressive roaming, etc all is based on how pro dota teams were playing. CLG had their own Dota 2 team (one of the best in the world) and never picked up on any of this. It's like they don't even want to win.

Plus everyone just copies. I swear some of these pros don't even know why they're doing what they're doing, they just do it because the better pro teams do it. Not even mentioning the team atmosphere these guys play in. Their gaming houses are a joke, they all **** talk each other, and they won't even scrim each other for whatever reason. It's hilarious seeing some of these pros on Reddit act like they care and are going to be so dedicated, and then just do the same things they've ever done.
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going to buy/train a new adc; draven, graves, or cait?
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going to buy/train a new adc; draven, graves, or cait?
It depends how much time you want to spend learning the champ. In order of difficulty Draven > Graves > Cait.
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It depends how much time you want to spend learning the champ. In order of difficulty Draven > Graves > Cait.
id rather put the time in, which is why im thinking draven, but graves is always a reliable pick and i play a good bit of games with fast push, which is something cait does well in. so im kind of tossed which to pick.

assuming you master all 3 of them, which would be the best one?
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graves is better in more situations
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It depends on the game that you are in that determines which is beter when mastered. I've seen Aphromoo make insane plays on Draven but just as amazing plays have been made by Doublelift's positioning with Cait who is a much lower skill cap champ.
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what about vayne?
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