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Old 10-29-2012, 09:33 PM #463
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ap trist is way more fun
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:25 PM #464
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ap trist is way more fun
I think they may have nerfed her ratios awhile back. But it is crazy fun
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:53 PM #465
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yea but with the E buff it should be fine
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:17 PM #466
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DFG nerf kills trist's viability
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:25 AM #467
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The biggest problem with ap trist is going against CC, 1 stun and you get ripped apart since youre rocket jumping in the fights or doing low amounts of Damage
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:59 AM #468
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AP trist is useless her ratios arent bad but her CDs are long.

Rocket jump .8 AP scaling, I love using my escape to do damage

Explosive shot 1.0 scaling, single target with 14 sec CD

Buster shot 1.5 scaling, nice but no aoe damage.

It's fun for a little but you have no damage if you save your jump like you should and you're still going to auto attack more then you use abilities.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:19 AM #469
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AP trist is useless her ratios arent bad but her CDs are long.

Rocket jump .8 AP scaling, I love using my escape to do damage

Explosive shot 1.0 scaling, single target with 14 sec CD

Buster shot 1.5 scaling, nice but no aoe damage.

It's fun for a little but you have no damage if you save your jump like you should and you're still going to auto attack more then you use abilities.
On kill or assist rocket jump's cd resets. I'd call that good aoe.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:11 AM #470
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her only job is to go in, kill a carry instantly, and die, she does her job well
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:22 AM #471
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her only job is to go in, kill a carry instantly, and die, she does her job well
But if your goal is to trade a carry for carry, why not pick veig or karth or maybe syndra who can take out a carry fast and still do more damage in a fight. If you are going to sacrifice in a fight you better be getting more then a kill and a little damage from it
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:32 AM #472
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But if your goal is to trade a carry for carry, why not pick veig or karth or maybe syndra who can take out a carry fast and still do more damage in a fight. If you are going to sacrifice in a fight you better be getting more then a kill and a little damage from it
Burst mages do burst damage. An adc does sustained damage. A great burst mage will assassinate a carry and live. A good burst mage will trade for an adc in a team fight. Karth is not a burt mage. He is a sustained damage mage.
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The goal is not to die guys, keep that in mind next game instead of trying to run through their tanks spamming q on their adc.
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scrubs....ap trist isnt good and neither is ap ez but theyre fun.
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Atleast AP ez is viable with a talon mid or something.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:22 PM #477
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What? AP ezreal is mid. He's bad but he's definitely not meant to be played bot lane, and Talon in no way fulfills the role of an AD carry.
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Talon doesn't fulfill any role.
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Burst mages do burst damage. An adc does sustained damage. A great burst mage will assassinate a carry and live. A good burst mage will trade for an adc in a team fight. Karth is not a burt mage. He is a sustained damage mage.
my point was why pick trist if you're going to suicide when you can suicide with karth and do much more damage. End game his ulti alone is upwards of 1k, I don't think you can say the same about ap trist
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The opposing team picks kass mid so your mid counters with talon. top picks an ad bruiser, so now you need an AP bam AP ez.

I do this every time I have a talon mid and it has worked great so far. How is it different him being bot or mid if hes AP?

Edit: obviously you guys are scared to go out side.of the meta.
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Talon doesn't fulfill any role.
He's like LeBlanc, Kassadin, or Ahri. An assassin. But being an AD assassin means he doesn't fit the meta. Especially since LeBlanc and Kassadin don't really fit either.
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The opposing team picks kass mid so your mid counters with talon. top picks an ad bruiser, so now you need an AP bam AP ez.

I do this every time I have a talon mid and it has worked great so far. How is it different him being bot or mid if hes AP?

Edit: obviously you guys are scared to go out side.of the meta.
he counters morg rather hard too. i think the problem is people are scared to send an ap top or maybe even in the jungle because going against the meta in soloq or normal draft or something just makes you look like a troll.

when i play premade 5's most of the time we do cait/nunu or trist/nunu mid lane to hard push the tower and steal wraiths all game (nunu takes smite over the jungler and you get a junlger who doesnt need it) and their jungle falls behind and a turret by like the 8 minute mark easy. in lower elos, people are scared to do those moves, and even if they mirror it then you win cause they start behind a level or 2
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:24 PM #483
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Ap Ezreal bot is stupid because then you don't have a carry. If you don't realize how important a carry is, you're stupid. The only teams that win without carries are teams with pre-nerf Urgot or if you're playing against a team so bad that it doesn't even matter.

The reason AP carries are mid is because it is the shortest lane and they lack excapes, and they tend to be good roamers. AP tops are fine if they have escapes. Kennen, Vlad, Rumble, for example. Try playing Ryze or Karthus top (900 elo doesn't count, I don't care for your opinion) and let me know how that goes.
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