Originally Posted by tinopaintball
can csl owners get it so the bolt doesnt stick out the back? eclipse, are you going to make them with the csl cut back? please, i want one. i would like to see a vid also from someone that gets it.
Doubt it'll happen like Soul06 said, but it would be really nice
Originally Posted by Alvecchio
The valve on the 11 stock are the LP valves that come with the SL's The HP valve was always the "extra" valve that came with them. The HP valve gave better efficiency. The valve for the new dart kit is the same size opening as the LP valve with the SL's or the same as the stock 11 (0.35 inches).
The HP Valve is not the extra valve, neither of the valves that came with the SL Ego's are the same as the stock ones (unless it has changed in the last generation). The stock Ego's came with an Mid-pressure / MP valve while the SL's came with HP and LP.
Originally Posted by jpmf1001
Here are some pics of the insert.
I'm hoping someone can machine a brass insert to make the bolt weight the same on the cure3+ because I'd like to be able to use my cure3+ from my CSL with this kit too.
Anyways. on to my observations....
I weighed the bolt compared to stock with no pin/plunger. This was last night and I can re-check the weight but as I recall the weight was 1gram on the dart bolt and 1/2 gram on the non dart bolt.
SFRs: 5/7 (stock)
LPR: 2 turns (stock)
Mode PSP 12
Starting Air: ~3500 PSI (68/45)
Paint shot: 1300 (1/2 of it was 3 year old Basic Training that was dimpled as hell, the 1/2 was Empire custom blend for a local field)
Air left ~1000 PSI
I can't comment specifically on the sound because I was next to a brick wall when I was shooting and I've never fired my Cure3+ or Cure4 in the same conditions. I have a cell phone decibel meter, so I can try measurements with that when I'm at the field this weekend.
Efficiency is up from my previous settings, but I was using 1/7 and getting ~8 pods on a 68/4500 cooled to ~4000psi and since I changed the settings it's not the most meaniful measure, but could be somewhat indicative of what one would see.
Average was 295 fps
I felt like my cure4 was louder than my cure3+ in stock tests I did previously and felt the same in this case also, but didn't have a relevant comparison at the time.
The bolt was extremely good on the paint, I'd expect the quality of paint I shot to just shread in any gun, but it shot straight and consistent for being old and dimpled and I didn't break a single ball.
I'll come back with more thoughts after the weekend, but at this point I definitely like it and would recommend it based off of what I've seen so far.
Things I would want to see as possible additions:
Cure3+ Dart bolt
CSL cut Dart bolt
more Dart inserts (like the SLS kit, but brass of course)
that's it really.