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Old 05-14-2013, 12:19 PM #715
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If there's that much clearance, who's to say you didn't just push her leg out through the foam? There's plenty of clearance there and as for the metal frame, it's not substantial enough to hold itself up and definitely easy enough to bend out of the way.
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:41 PM #716
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You don't think that the gravity of the situation imparted enough stress and adrenaline on you that your recollection of the events just might be a bit skewed? God just arbitrarily assumed control of the USS FreeEnterprise to save this one insignificant girl by allowing her body to pass through solid matter? ****, I'm waiting for the surgeon to pass his hand through a gunshot victim to remove all the bullet fragments so that they may live.
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Free has shown he has far more character and class than you do in the short time he has been posting in politics. The fact that you feel the need to attack his character demonstrates your mental inferiority complex and a general lack of maturity.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:21 AM #719
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You don't think that the gravity of the situation imparted enough stress and adrenaline on you that your recollection of the events just might be a bit skewed? God just arbitrarily assumed control of the USS FreeEnterprise to save this one insignificant girl by allowing her body to pass through solid matter? ****, I'm waiting for the surgeon to pass his hand through a gunshot victim to remove all the bullet fragments so that they may live.
God is too busy helping professional athletes score touchdowns and telling TV hosts the outcome of US elections.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:20 AM #720
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Remember my "see no Jihad, hear no Jihad, speak no Jihad"...


Well this Benghazi scandal is proving that the White house CHANGED the narrative and then lied about changing it.

Remember, they said it was a youtube video that caused it. And there was no Jihad threat...

Now that they are doing email document dumps way after the event, that clearly show they LIED.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ms_724603.html

"The initial CIA changes softened some of the language about the participants in the Benghazi assault – from “Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda” to “Islamic extremists.” But CIA officials also added bullet points about the possible participation of Ansar al Sharia, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group, and previous warnings about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. Those additions came out after the talking points were sent to “the interagency,” where the CIA’s final draft was further stripped down to little more than boilerplate. The half dozen references to terrorists – both in Benghazi and more generally – all but disappeared. Gone were references to al Qaeda, Ansar al Sharia, jihadists, Islamic extremists, etc. The only remaining mention was a note that “extremists” had participated in the attack.

As striking as what appears in the email traffic is what does not. There is no mention of the YouTube video that would become a central part of the administration’s explanation of the attacks to the American people until a brief mention in the subject line of emails coming out of an important meeting where further revisions were made.

Carney, in particular, is likely to face tough questioning about the contents of the emails because he made claims to reporters that were untrue. “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two – of these two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility,’ because the word ‘consulate’ was inaccurate,” he told reporters on November 28, 2012.

That’s not true. An email sent at 9:15 PM on September 14, from an official in the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs to others at the agency, described the process this way. “The State Department had major reservations with much or most of the document. We revised the document with their concerns in mind.”

That directly contradicts what Carney said. It’s also difficult to reconcile with claims made by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during testimony she gave January 23 on Capitol Hill.

“It was an intelligence product,” she said, adding later that the “intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into talking points.” (See here for the original version of the talking points and the final one.)

Carney and other top Obama administration officials have long maintained that CIA officials revised the talking points with minimal input from Obama administration officials. The claim made little sense when they made it – why would CIA officials revise on their own a set of talking points they’d already finalized? The emails demonstrate clearly that it isn’t true."


So we have many people busted for lying. Including Hillary who lied UNDER OATH before congress...

I'm sure the rules are different for liberals and they won't go to jail for lying under oath...

Right?
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This whole "OMG YOUTUBE VIDEO" nonsense is so goddamn irrelevant that I can't help but feel that it is an intentional diversion away from the subject of true controversy with Benghazi: the lack of U.S. security forces at the consulate in the wake of the collapse of the Gaddafi regime. This very well may have been the result of piss-poor decision making at the hands of the Obama administration, but focusing on the minutiae of what was said in the immediate aftermath of the attack does jack **** for addressing the heart of the problem.

This whole "cover-up" nonsense is about as ridiculous as liberals getting heated that Bush continued to read to those Florida school children after hearing news of the World Trade Center.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:42 AM #722
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This whole "cover-up" nonsense is about as ridiculous as liberals getting heated that Bush continued to read to those Florida school children after hearing news of the World Trade Center.
Just another example of leading from behind.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:49 AM #723
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This whole "OMG YOUTUBE VIDEO" nonsense is so goddamn irrelevant that I can't help but feel that it is an intentional diversion away from the subject of true controversy with Benghazi: the lack of U.S. security forces at the consulate in the wake of the collapse of the Gaddafi regime. This very well may have been the result of piss-poor decision making at the hands of the Obama administration, but focusing on the minutiae of what was said in the immediate aftermath of the attack does jack **** for addressing the heart of the problem.

This whole "cover-up" nonsense is about as ridiculous as liberals getting heated that Bush continued to read to those Florida school children after hearing news of the World Trade Center.
But you don't win hearts with reason you win it with platitudes.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:54 AM #724
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But you don't win hearts with reason you win it with platitudes.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:33 AM #725
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This whole "OMG YOUTUBE VIDEO" nonsense is so goddamn irrelevant that I can't help but feel that it is an intentional diversion away from the subject of true controversy with Benghazi: the lack of U.S. security forces at the consulate in the wake of the collapse of the Gaddafi regime. This very well may have been the result of piss-poor decision making at the hands of the Obama administration, but focusing on the minutiae of what was said in the immediate aftermath of the attack does jack **** for addressing the heart of the problem.

This whole "cover-up" nonsense is about as ridiculous as liberals getting heated that Bush continued to read to those Florida school children after hearing news of the World Trade Center.


Actually no, this is the big deal, because the liberals in the press ALLOWED this to be the topic of discussion and let this whole matter DIE in the press before it even became an issue.

BECAUSE IT WAS DURING THE ELECTION of their guy.

THAT is why this "youtube" thing is a big deal. I was saying it was a scam ONE DAY after it happened, in this very thread!... on 9/12...



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Muslim "extremists" you say?...

Have any of you read the Quran?

Here is a good place to start...

http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/009.asp

Surah 9.5 " then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);"


Guess what, YOU are all pagans... (or infidels as you are called in other versions of this muslim text).

The goal of Muslims is Sharia law. Read up on it... They can lie, steal, cheat, and manipulate you to get Sharia as the law of your land. Make no mistake, this was done on 9/11 on purpose, liberals want you to believe that it was because of this film, but, they were heard chanting "we are all Osama, Obama".

Meaning the Muslims were mad that Obama is going around bragging about killing Osama. And they ALL want to bring the fight to us. I guess bowing every chance and apologizing for America didn't get him the "love" he expected.

While our embassy in Libya is laying in rubble this morning and the evidence is pointing at our "muslim friends" who did that... with help from the people that were to "protect" our ambassador who was killed by these thugs. It was clearly a coordinated attack, as they KNEW where they took him for safety... Nothing like your "friends" turning you in to the so called "mob" who happened to have RPG's... Attacking our embassy is a declaration of WAR, they know it, and we SHOULD know it. But, our apologist in Chief will let the media help him blame Romney or something...

Corruption at the highest levels, and the fact that the embassy released a document apologizing for America before the attack took place is even more proof that Obama has no clue and is "on the job training" still, after 3 and a half years... We need a LEADER, not someone more concerned with winning the next election, instead of being a leader NOW when we need one.

America has been fighting Muslims since BEFORE we were America... Check your history, as pirates (Barbary pirates who ran under the black flag) were attacking our supply ships and we built a navy PRIOR to the US becoming the US, just to protect ourselves from those Muslim pirates who were stealing from us in the name of Allah. Hollywood made them into the caricature that you all have in your minds when you think of pirates.

I have some buttons from the uniforms of these men who sailed to protect our merchant vessels during that time prior to 1776 and the founding of the "US" military (which was made to protect us from invading Muslims).

This isn't a "new" problem, their goal doesn't change, they want to take over the world, you either join them, or they kill you. And if you ask them directly, they can lie and manipulate you and that is perfectly acceptable to their religion.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:39 AM #726
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Actually no, this is the big deal, because the liberals in the press ALLOWED this to be the topic of discussion and let this whole matter DIE in the press before it even became an issue.
So the liberal media is at fault for allowing the red-herring of "YOUTUBE SCANDAL" to become THE hot-topic issue for the right-wingers?

This is pure, unadulterated derangement.
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I agree, anyone who bought the line about "youtube video" (btw, the guy is still in jail as a result of the scrutiny brought by his Obamafame) is clearly deranged.

Oh wait, you wanted to blame the left using the media to control the message on the right?...

hahahahha!
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I don't know if I would call him deranged, just dishonest. It is not an uncommon tactic to use red-herrings to reframe the debate into binary issues favorable to your cause. You (Stellar) accurately described the core issue with Benghazi, which was an administrative failure. This is an easily identifiable and correctable error tragically misrepresented for the sake of a silly scapegoat ritual.

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I agree, anyone who bought the line about "youtube video" (btw, the guy is still in jail as a result of the scrutiny brought by his Obamafame) is clearly deranged.

Oh wait, you wanted to blame the left using the media to control the message on the right?...

hahahahha!
No... you're an idiot, seriously how do you not realize that focusing the media attention on this youtube nonsense actually helps the administration because no one on this planet that isn't already on your right wing bandwagon gives a **** that he tried to dodge blame for coming out with the now disproved youtube video narrative. Like congratulations, you guys caught a politician spinning, woo; the rest of us weren't in denial, we just don't give a ****.

But, uh, good job distracting everyone from the actual important ****ups the adminstration did/might have made regarding security, and generally discrediting attempts to damage the president politically over it by making it look like the pet cause of the lunatic fringe.
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