Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-10-2013, 12:22 PM #652
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Quote:
Originally Posted by sucka T. View Post
Guess you didn't realize that, huh...

There were riots all over after Obama had his administration blamed the youtube video. That is common knowledge now... Which is another reason this is such a big deal. They caused people to be killed by putting out a false narrative.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/wo...emen.html?_r=0

"Deadly outrage in the Arab world over an American-made video insulting Islam’s founder spread to at least half a dozen places across the Middle East on Thursday and threatened to draw in Afghanistan, two days after assailants in Libya killed four American diplomatic personnel, including the ambassador, and caused a foreign policy political clash in the United States."
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsored Links Remove Advertisement
Advertisement
Old 05-10-2013, 12:27 PM #653
jamest91
 
 
jamest91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal
jamest91 helped look for balloons
jamest91 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
jamest91 is for the Gunfight
jamest91 supports Sherwood Forest
Quote:
Originally Posted by Treghc View Post
Leave it to you to take that quote entirely out of context, just so it fits your views. Hillary actually said this:

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again."

Misinformation is a bad thing to spread, especially when you're trying to claim misinformation being spread by others.
The fact that you are trying to show the entire quote in an attempt to make Clinton's words and actions seems less horrific is astounding. Really Teghc, thats pretty low of you. I especially like this quote because when Hillary said it, she already knew that EVERY SINGLE FREAKING ADVISER AND SOURCE SAID IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK FROM THE BEGINNING!!!

Truth is, everyone cares except for people who highly support the Obama administration.
__________________
STAY GOLD
jamest91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 12:43 PM #654
Treghc
 
 
Treghc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Seattle
Treghc is a Supporting Member
Treghc is a founding member
 has been a member for 10 years
Treghc is a Forum Captain
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
who really cares? It isn't like the media will cover this anyway... So NO information is what I am complaining about.
Two things here:

1 - While I was listening to NPR on my way to work this morning, they were covering it. It wasn't a major story because it's simply being rehashed through the previous investigations which turned up nothing previously.

2 - By this response, it seems you have a problem with the media? Is it the government we're mad at or the media? Why are you mad at the media? It's not their job to inform us. In a capitalistic nation, it's their job to make money. Blaming them for anything is about as useful as string cheese in a gun fight.

Quote:
According to the public, they only think Benghazi happened because of a youtube video... Remember that was the cause.
And the White House has reiterated that the video was used as an excuse. Not too far from their original statement. Not sure why this matters to begin with.

Quote:
How many people died when the administration blamed that video as the cause of the problems then there were demonstrations all over the world as Muslims got all bent out of shape as the white house was blaming a youtube video and giving them ammo for their hate of America...
Honestly, I don't know. Do you have a figure for me?

Quote:
It makes a HUGE difference, as this administration CAUSED those other riots and deaths by blaming the youtube video. They lit the match so to speak.
Which riots? Which deaths?

Quote:
So, yeah, thanks for clearing that up, as clearly Hillary is complicit in carrying that false narrative to get Obama re-elected.

But, don't worry, it won't be a national news story, because clearly there are two sets of rules for our country's liberal/media. Don't hurt your own, and always attack the person bringing up damage to your liberal, by attempting to smear them...
Both sides of the fence do this. As I've stated in this very thread, the media does not lean to the liberal side of things, even though this country is realistically rather liberal anyways.

This story isn't getting media coverage because it's actually a pretty common event and holds littler interest to the American people. Why should the American people care about whether a Youtube video was the cause of the attack or not? Please explain to me how this effects our lives.

I posted just on the previous page about 13 similar attacks that occurred during the Bush administration. Why didn't the media cover those? And why is this story more significant than those attacks?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamest91 View Post
The fact that you are trying to show the entire quote in an attempt to make Clinton's words and actions seems less horrific is astounding. Really Teghc, thats pretty low of you. I especially like this quote because when Hillary said it, she already knew that EVERY SINGLE FREAKING ADVISER AND SOURCE SAID IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK FROM THE BEGINNING!!!

Truth is, everyone cares except for people who highly support the Obama administration.
This wreaks of stupidity. Quotes should be shown in context, not blindly thrown around as scrunched up little bits that can be taken in any way the narrator wants.

Hillary was saying that people died, regardless of how it occurred. What matters is that we figure out how to stop it from happening again. Do you disagree? You'd care more about rhetoric over figuring out how to stop such attacks from occurring again?

Your Caps Lock "yelling" means nothing. Hillary's quote says nothing about identifying the origin of the attacks. So I don't get what you're trying to say.

Your last bit is more idiocy. I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I can at least take a step back and view the overly bias bull**** steaming through the neo-con extremists trying to use this as an excuse for... anything.
__________________
“But men, they say a lot of foolish things. In the end, the only words I can find to believe in are mine." - Joe

Tarsier Slave


We are Sapien

Last edited by Treghc : 05-10-2013 at 12:47 PM.
Treghc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 12:44 PM #655
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Whoa... ABC news put out an "exclusive" that proves the white house was lying...


How exactly is is this an "exclusive, as I have been saying this for MONTHS?..." Everyone who paid attention KNEW they were lying from the get-go, only AFTER Obama is elected, AND the hearings are days in, does the FIRST major media outlet start to look at the story... Unbelievable. Media is indeed dead in our country. That is an "exclusive" look at the corruption in our media.


But, at least they finally covered it. See for yourself, if the public finds out about all of this. This could destroy the Democrats.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...or-references/

And clearly ABC couldn't hide it any longer since it has been on page one all over conservative media since the election.

Hillary could have saved the Ambassador by sending in any of the troops in the region, she didn't they died. Including the guy who WENT AGAINST ORDERS and went anyway, and ended up saving over 30 of the people inside. Course, it took a congressional hearing and 9 months to hear anything FROM them, as the media couldn't be bothered to look into any of this...
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 12:53 PM #656
AlphaNeo36
lapping your tears
 
AlphaNeo36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 765-IN
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamest91 View Post

The fact that you are trying to show the entire quote in an attempt to make Clinton's words and actions seems less horrific is astounding.
hahahaha
__________________
Overbear: better 10 innocent men be convicted, than a single guilty man go free to commit more crime.
Overbear: I prefer that I be given a license to shoot anyone who would pick socialism or communism over the basic freedoms inherent to consumerism.
MatrixBaller04 AKA EricS6661: I can guarantee something will happen between now and February 9th.
yesme: i'm not saying you should invest in gold first off, you would be much better off to invest in food,stuff you use and will keep for a couple of years, like razors
Blake360: in highschool, my teacher's father worked for the CIA and she brought my class documents proving the Roswell crash was of extraterrestrial origin.
AlphaNeo36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 12:58 PM #657
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
More news coverage of the attacks caused by the white house when they blamed an obscure video on youtube (not even a FILM, but a little preview trailer).

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/wo...pagewanted=all

that is Egypt rioting from because of the "video" so that is totally the fault of Obama's administration, since they invented that whole thing.

And Obama must have been thrilled that the Muslim world bought his "youtube video" line since there were then riots in Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/fe...ots_09-17.html

Good Job Obama, you got people killed with your false narrative...


In the "real" world that would have consequences. But, we live in Treghc land, where liberalism has no shame and never does anything wrong... If anyone speaks out against Obama, then, Attack the messenger!!!
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:00 PM #658
spracks21
Zap Rowsdower
 
spracks21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lincoln, NE
spracks21 plays in the PSP
spracks21 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
spracks21 supports Team VICIOUS
spracks21 plays in the APPA D3 division
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
If anyone speaks out against Obama, then, Attack the messenger!!!
There is no need to capitalize the "A" in "attack" in that statement.

Edit: The 2nd comma is also incorrect.
__________________
Aimless Factory
#21

Last edited by spracks21 : 05-10-2013 at 01:03 PM.
spracks21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:05 PM #659
Treghc
 
 
Treghc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Seattle
Treghc is a Supporting Member
Treghc is a founding member
 has been a member for 10 years
Treghc is a Forum Captain
Quote:
Originally Posted by spracks21 View Post
There is no need to capitalize the "A" in "attack" in that statement.

Edit: The 2nd comma is also incorrect.
This guy pulled a woman's leg straight through a piece of metal without harming her further. He has the hand of God. His attacks are callings from God himself. A jihad, if you will.
__________________
“But men, they say a lot of foolish things. In the end, the only words I can find to believe in are mine." - Joe

Tarsier Slave


We are Sapien
Treghc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:08 PM #660
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
and as usual, all you have is attacks on the person bringing up the corruption... Do you ever get tired of carrying this corrupt administrations water?


Was that the end of the riots caused by Obama???

Well, the media was done covering it then. Because they knew this was all made up anyway, and don't want to hurt their re-election campaign of their guy.

No, that wasn't the end, as the riots spread to 21 countries! All because the white house said that Benghazi (a terrorist attack) was caused by a youtube video insulting Islam...

Which was so insulting to islam, that many were killed.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...pread-1.465059

"Three people were killed in Sudan and at least three were killed and twenty wounded in Tunisia on Friday, when angry protesters stormed the German, British and U.S. embassies in Khartoum, and the U.S. embassy in Tunis.

The protests in Sudan and Tunisia were part of a wider wave of anti-American demonstrations that spread across the Muslim world after Friday prayers. These protests were related to a video that was deemed offensive of the Muslim prophet Mohammed.

Police fired teargas to stop some 5,000 demonstrators storming the German and British embassies in Sudan, a witness said. After hurling stones at the two embassies, which are next to each other in Khartoum, protesters stormed the main gates and were able to break into the German Embassy. The protesters pulled down the embassy's emblem, raised an Islamic flag, broke windows and started a fire in front of the main gate.

"The German embassy in Khartoum is currently the target of attacks by aggressive protesters," German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said in a statement.

"The Sudanese ambassador was summoned this morning. His nation's duty to protect diplomatic missions was clearly explained to him," Westerwelle said, adding that diplomats were safe.

Later, Sudanese protesters jumped over the wall into the U.S. embassy, and there were reports of gunfire at the embassy compound. Protesters hosted an Islamic flag after breaching an outer security wall, the witness said.

A hospital doctor later said that one of the protesters was killed. "We just got one dead body brought in," said the doctor at a Khartoum hospital, who declined to be identified.

A Reuters reporter earlier saw two protesters lying on the ground covered in blood in front of the U.S. embassy, where police had fired tear gas to try to disperse thousands of protesters.

Later, state media reported that at least three protesters were killed in total.

In Tunisia, a witness told Reuters that protesters jumped over the wall of the U.S. embassy in the capital Tunis, set fire to trees and smashed windows. At least twenty protesters were wounded by police gunfire near the embassy, and there were reports of a large fire in the compound. It was not immediately clear if police fired live rounds or rubber bullets.

Protesters also set fire to the American School in the Tunisian capital. The school was closed on Friday. "(U.S. President Barack) Obama, Obama, we are all Osamas," the protesters chanted, in reference to the slain al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

State television reported that at least three were killed and 28 were wounded in the protests.

Earlier, in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli, at least one person was killed and 25 wounded during clashes with police.

In East Jerusalem, hundreds of Muslim worshippers clashed with police after Friday prayers.

In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood called for a nationwide protest on Friday. Protesters clashed with police in Cairo, who were blocking their way to the U.S. Embassy, which was attacked earlier this week.

In Nigeria, troops fired live rounds to disperse Muslims protesting in the volatile central city of Jos. Scores of demonstrators distributed photographs printed out from the trailer of the film after Friday prayers in the city.

In Yemen, security forces shot live rounds in the air and fired tear gas at a crowd of around 2,000 protesters trying to march to the U.S. Embassy in the capital Sanaa."




How can this NOT be blamed on Obama's administration? They wagged the dog, and people died from their lies?...
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:09 PM #661
F1VENOM
 
 
F1VENOM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by Treghc View Post
This guy pulled a woman's leg straight through a piece of metal without harming her further. He has the hand of God. His attacks are callings from God himself. A jihad, if you will.
I forgot about that.
F1VENOM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:11 PM #662
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Do you guys have a soul?


If so, why?
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:13 PM #663
Oosh11
 
 
Oosh11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
More news coverage of the attacks caused by the white house when they blamed an obscure video on youtube (not even a FILM, but a little preview trailer).

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/wo...pagewanted=all

that is Egypt rioting from because of the "video" so that is totally the fault of Obama's administration, since they invented that whole thing.

And Obama must have been thrilled that the Muslim world bought his "youtube video" line since there were then riots in Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/fe...ots_09-17.html

Good Job Obama, you got people killed with your false narrative...


In the "real" world that would have consequences. But, we live in Treghc land, where liberalism has no shame and never does anything wrong... If anyone speaks out against Obama, then, Attack the messenger!!!
Without Obama, that video wouldn't exist. CAn't believe these people don't understand when the devil surfaces!
Oosh11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:13 PM #664
F1VENOM
 
 
F1VENOM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
Do you guys have a soul?


If so, why?
Which version of a soul and why?
F1VENOM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:21 PM #665
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Does a human have a soul? It isn't that hard of a question...
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:24 PM #666
F1VENOM
 
 
F1VENOM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
Does a human have a soul? It isn't that hard of a question...
Which version of a soul?
F1VENOM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:28 PM #667
spracks21
Zap Rowsdower
 
spracks21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lincoln, NE
spracks21 plays in the PSP
spracks21 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
spracks21 supports Team VICIOUS
spracks21 plays in the APPA D3 division
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
Does a human have a soul? It isn't that hard of a question...
I've got soul, and I'm super bad..
__________________
Aimless Factory
#21
spracks21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:35 PM #668
Eric the Fish
 
 
Eric the Fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Keep drinking the republican cool aid Free. This is a purely political inquisition to try to dirty up Clinton for 2016. Very little new, just a rehash of debunked theories. NOTHING could have happened to save the ambassador with what was available in the area during the actual time frame of attacks.The first attack was over before the first team from Tripoli git there. The ambassador was dead. The second team of a whopping 4 special agents was not allowed to go because the situation was unclear as to wether the main embassy in Tripoli would come under attack so the four agents were held back. The two additional american agents killed in the motar attack could not have gotten help from the 2nd " relief group" as the 2nd attack was over before the 2nd group could ever have gotten there. That plus 2 agents taken out by mortars, because they are standing on the roof of a targeted bluilding, could easily have been six dead if the second group was there and stupid enough to make themselves easy targets. By the way I gleaned this info from a John Bolton piece.
Eric the Fish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:43 PM #669
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Sounds like you need to read some facts...

__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:50 PM #670
FreeEnterprise
 
 
FreeEnterprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oxford OH Trails of Doom
FreeEnterprise posts videos on PbNation
Oh, and since CBS did a story on this, Obama is TICKED OFF, and called all the media into his office to scold them and tell them to SHUT UP.

(off the record of course). I'm sure liberals see nothing wrong with this...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2...off-the-record
__________________

Trails of Doom Stickers on Ebay!
FreeEnterprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:50 PM #671
jamest91
 
 
jamest91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal
jamest91 helped look for balloons
jamest91 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
jamest91 is for the Gunfight
jamest91 supports Sherwood Forest
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise View Post
Does a human have a soul? It isn't that hard of a question...
About 80% of the people who post in the political pbn thread are Obama supporters Enterprise. There really isn't much point trying to continually argue with them because they, like most left supports, simply resort to insults and sweeping something under the rug when they know they're in the wrong.

It's also unfortunate that most media sources on tv do the same thing. Hurts the American people.
__________________
STAY GOLD
jamest91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2013, 01:54 PM #672
spitwad
nasty
 
spitwad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
spitwad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump