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Old 05-03-2013, 04:36 AM #1
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Obama says mudering babies is okay as long as you are 15

We've got to get these bums out of office. The FDA says you can't kill yourself by smoking until you are 18.
You can't kill yourself by drinking until you turn 21.
You can't join the armed forces and kill terrorists until you are 18.
But now you can kill as many babies as you want when you turn 15.

At least conservatives will benefit from less democrats being born. Ironically this might work out to the GOP's advantage.





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President Barack Obama said Thursday he was comfortable with his administration's decision to allow over-the-counter purchases of a morning-after pill for anyone 15 and older.

The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday had lowered the age at which people can buy the Plan B One-Step morning-after pill without a prescription to 15 — younger than the current limit of 17. The FDA decided that the pill could be sold on drugstore shelves near condoms, instead of locked behind pharmacy counters.

Obama, speaking at a news conference while in Mexico, said the FDA's decision was based on "solid scientific evidence."

What's still unclear is whether the administration will prevail on its appeal of a court order that would lift all age limits on purchasers of the pill.

That decision to appeal set off a storm of criticism from reproductive rights groups, who denounced it as politically motivated and a step backward for women's health.

"We are profoundly disappointed. This appeal takes away the promise of all women having timely access to emergency contraception," Susannah Baruch, Interim President & CEO of the Reproductive Health Technologies Project, said in a statement late Wednesday.

"It is especially troubling in light of the Food and Drug Administration's move yesterday to continue age restrictions and ID requirements, despite a court order to make emergency contraception accessible for women of all ages. Both announcements, particularly in tandem, highlight the administration's corner-cutting on women's health," Baruch said. "It's a sad day for women's health when politics prevails."

After the appeal was announced late Wednesday, Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, said, "The prevention of unwanted pregnancy, particularly in adolescents, should not be obstructed by politicians." She called it a "step backwards for women's health."

Last week, O'Neill noted, Obama was applauded when he addressed members of Planned Parenthood and spoke of the organization's "core principle" that women should be allowed to make their own decisions about their health.

"President Obama should practice what he preaches," O'Neill said.

In appealing the ruling Wednesday, the administration recommitted itself to a position Obama took during his re-election campaign that younger teens shouldn't have unabated access to emergency contraceptives, despite the insistence by physicians groups and much of his Democratic base that the pill should be readily available.

The Justice Department's appeal responded to an order by U.S. District Judge Edward Korman in New York that would allow girls and women of any age to buy not only Plan B but its cheaper generic competition as easily as they can buy aspirin. Korman gave the FDA 30 days to comply, and the Monday deadline was approaching.

In its filing, the Justice Department said Korman exceeded his authority and that his decision should be suspended while that appeal is under way, meaning only Plan B One-Step would appear on drugstore shelves until the case is finally settled. If Korman's order isn't suspended during the appeals process, the result would be "substantial market confusion, harming FDA's and the public's interest" as drugstores receive conflicting orders about who's allowed to buy what, the Justice Department concluded.

Reluctant to get drawn into a messy second-term spat over social issues, White House officials insisted Wednesday that both the FDA and the Justice Department were acting independently of the White House in deciding how to proceed. But the decision to appeal was certain to irk abortion-rights advocates who say they can't understand why a Democratic president is siding with social conservatives in favor of limiting women's reproductive choices.

Current and former White House aides said Obama's approach to the issue has been heavily influenced by his experience as the father of two school-age daughters. Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius have also questioned whether there's enough data available to show the morning-after pill is safe and appropriate for younger girls, even though physicians groups insist that it is.

Rather than take matters into his own hands, the Justice Department argued to the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that Korman should have ordered the FDA to reconsider its options for regulating emergency contraception. The court cannot overturn the rules and processes that federal agencies must follow "by instead mandating a particular substantive outcome," the appeal stated.

Social conservatives were outraged by the FDA's move to lower the age limits for Plan B — as well as the possibility that Korman's ruling might take effect and lift age restrictions altogether.

"This decision undermines the right of parents to make important health decisions for their young daughters," said Anna Higgins of the Family Research Council.

If a woman already is pregnant, the morning-after pill has no effect. It prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg. According to the medical definition, pregnancy doesn't begin until a fertilized egg implants itself into the wall of the uterus. Still, some critics say Plan B is the equivalent of an abortion pill because it may also be able to prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus, a contention that many scientists — and Korman, in his ruling — said has been discredited.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:52 AM #2
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At least conservatives will benefit from less democrats being born. Ironically this might work out to the GOP's advantage.
You're right, they will become extinct one day due to this and then the joke will be on them.
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You're right, they will become extinct one day due to this and then the joke will be on them.
The sooner the better.
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Your title is wrong, it's not a baby yet.

From your huge cut and paste:

"If a woman already is pregnant, the morning-after pill has no effect. It prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg. According to the medical definition, pregnancy doesn't begin until a fertilized egg implants itself into the wall of the uterus. Still, some critics say Plan B is the equivalent of an abortion pill because it may also be able to prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus, a contention that many scientists — and Korman, in his ruling — said has been discredited."

I was wondering when you guys would get your panties in a bunch about this.
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Can I child get birth control without a parent knowing?
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:05 AM #6
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I always thought they could.

Rumor has it that Satan himself volunteers his time at planned parenthood handing out pills to 15yr olds.

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I always thought they could.

Rumor has it that Satan himself volunteers his time at planned parenthood handing out pills to 15yr olds.
I don't like that commercial as much as I like Dracula at the blood drive.


PS - I am noticing my thoughts on abortion changing more the closer I get to my son's birth. Chemicals, man. Crazy things.
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Hormones are crazy things man. They change everyone. I hope all goes well. It's a crazy time you're going into. Enjoy sleeping in on Saturdays because those will soon be gone forever.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:55 AM #9
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guns for 15 year olds is ok though
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guns for 15 year olds is ok though
No, I'd say you still need to be an adult to own/purchase a firearm.
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This subforum never ceases to surprise me with its outrageous stupidity.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:19 AM #12
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Is that why you keep coming back?
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guns for 15 year olds is ok though
Thats nothing... Guns for 5yr olds is ok.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19079010

He shot her with a gun that was given to him as a gift. Cricket markets special pink toy 22s for kids. Even the paintball industry doesn't market to kids that young. Crazy.
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The morning after pill isn't killing babies... I thought this post would be about abortions not precautions
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This subforum never ceases to surprise me with its outrageous stupidity.
It's like watching a train wreck happening inside of a C-130 as the plane smashes into the ground.

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Thats nothing... Guns for 5yr olds is ok.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19079010

He shot her with a gun that was given to him as a gift. Cricket markets special pink toy 22s for kids. Even the paintball industry doesn't market to kids that young. Crazy.
Hmm... thought the pink guns were for the womens.
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This subforum never ceases to surprise me with its outrageous stupidity.
Care to be more specific?

I see it as something to do while a computer crunches my data.
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Hmm... thought the pink guns were for the womens.
Not in gender blind derptopia.
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Is that why you keep coming back?
I do it to solidify my beliefs that people are stupid.

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Can I child get birth control without a parent knowing?
You decisions or choices on a subject shouldn't impede on someone elses. This is one of those acts that whoever does it has to live with it. Morning after pill is like taking tylenol for a headache though. There are many a people that shouldn't have kids and abortions stop that. I hope shakey will one day utilize the abortion clinic if he ever has sex with someone.

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The morning after pill isn't killing babies... I thought this post would be about abortions not precautions
Yeah, Shakey isn't too smart.
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Your title is wrong, it's not a baby yet.

From your huge cut and paste:

"If a woman already is pregnant, the morning-after pill has no effect. It prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg. According to the medical definition, pregnancy doesn't begin until a fertilized egg implants itself into the wall of the uterus. Still, some critics say Plan B is the equivalent of an abortion pill because it may also be able to prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus, a contention that many scientists — and Korman, in his ruling — said has been discredited."

I was wondering when you guys would get your panties in a bunch about this.
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Care to be more specific?

I see it as something to do while a computer crunches my data.
I come back for the rare conversation in which I actually learn and/or appreciate someone's knowledge/opinion.

Threads like this one are not one of those threads; they show lack of knowledge as well as no thought out stance to respect on the issue. It's useless banter under the guise of a political story that was copy pasta'd to give illusion of purpose.
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