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Old 09-26-2012, 02:38 PM #64
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I guess you didn't read the title, which clearly says "Times/CBS Poll: 68% Against Obamacare"

Looks like you need to go learn what sources are. Since you wouldn't know how to find the source because you're computer illiterate, I'll have to post it here for you.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...-care-mandate/

Racking up all of these fails of yours must be embarrassing for you, huh? Feel free to post more irrelevant images to make yourself feel better.
Yes, sources. Sourcing it to a tainted source like Newsmax rather than the actual source is utter failure. That says more about you than you probably realize; Newsmax is not cited by anyone credible nor would anyone interested in honesty click on a Newsmax link.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:43 PM #65
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Media Matters is tainted, yet people still source to them...
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:48 PM #66
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Media Matters is tainted, yet people still source to them...
How are they tainted? They are a pretty solid source, mostly because they are a news analysis site while Newsmax is a "news" site.
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Could it not be argued that all sites relating to politics are going to generally lean to one side or the other and bash the opposing? There are very few sites that actually step fully back and simply make judgements based off sure facts.
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I will give you this - every time Media Matters is caught being the hacks they are, they issue corrections.

I've had run ins with them, on talk radio, where I called them out on their intellectual dishonesty and even got the host of the show to agree with me.
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LOL at 1:13
Gonzo was probably one of those callers. And democrats would have us believe they're "smart".

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Gonzo was probably one of those callers. And democrats would have us believe they're "smart".
Well it was Rick Santorum that said "we will never have the smart people on our side". Lols.
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Gonzo was probably one of those callers. And democrats would have us believe they're "smart".
Because intelligent people listen to Howard Stern

What a useless excuse of a post. Might as well post a picture of a mentally ill kid and scream "LIBERALS DO THIS! DUR HURRRR"
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So Stern is on equal footing with someone like Limbaugh or Savage and their listeners?
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Because intelligent people listen to Howard Stern
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That is an odd comment...
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Some more typical obama supporters:



No wonder they vote for him.
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That is an odd comment...
Explain.
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Explain.
You insinuate you know what entertains all intelligent people.
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You insinuate you know what entertains all intelligent people.
I'm insinuating I know the general crowd that watches/listens to Howard Stern. The same type that is more interested in celebrity gossip and fad-based social movements than anything pertaining towards intelligent discussion at a political level.

Howard Stern, like most successful business models, strives for a specific target demographic. That demographic is not the highly educated. Considering his success, it's pretty simple to see who the vast majority of his viewers/listeners are.
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I'm insinuating I know the general crowd that watches/listens to Howard Stern. The same type that is more interested in celebrity gossip and fad-based social movements than anything pertaining towards intelligent discussion at a political level.

Howard Stern, like most successful business models, strives for a specific target demographic. That demographic is not the highly educated. Considering his success, it's pretty simple to see who the vast majority of his viewers/listeners are.
Thanks to Stern, we now also know Obama's target demographic.
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Thanks to Stern, we now also know Obama's target demographic.
mostly people in the northeast and west

basically, everyone outside of the confederacy
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Thanks to Stern, we now also know Obama's target demographic.
Interesting correlation you're jumping to there, given the percentage of college graduates that are democrats compared to republicans...

Or are you trying to say something else?

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It appears that Obama has successfully created more jobs for Americans in his first four years of presidency than Bush did in his first four years (though, that's still not saying much). Also, Obama seems to have officially created a net positive in job creation even after being inaugurated in the midst of such a terrible crash of the economy.



This, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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Interesting correlation you're jumping to there, given the percentage of college graduates that are democrats compared to republicans...

Or are you trying to say something else?
About as accurate as your "I know the general crowd..." hooplah. Funny you only seem to see it when it's pointed at Obama.

Also, jobs are not growing faster then the working age population:

http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

It is getting harder to find a job and not easier.

While higher wage professional jobs were lost during the downturn, the majority of jobs added have been low to average wage. Aka we're experiencing the "McJobs Recovery" that Kerry whooped about in '04, only for real this time:

•Lower-wage occupations constituted 21 percent of recession losses, but 58 percent of recovery growth.

•Mid-wage occupations constituted 60 percent of recession losses, but only 22 percent of recovery growth.

•Higher-wage occupations constituted 19 percent of recession job losses, and 20 percent of recovery growth.


http://www.nelp.org/index.php/conten...reat_recession

Americans that have jobs are getting poorer. Median income has now fallen by 8.2% under Obama now that August's numbers have come in today:

http://news.investors.com/092512-626...ent-obama.aspx

Also in August durable goods orders dropped 13.2%, the largest drop since the onset of the recession:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88Q0S720120927

Let's also not forget the that American workforce is currently at it's smallest level in 30 years (since Carter, ironically):

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000



Startups are also down under Obama:

http://www.bls.gov/bdm/entrepreneurs...reneurship.htm



Meanwhile, while the cost of pretty much everything continues to rise, Obama's Healthcare "reform" has had the opposite effect of what he promised since passing it:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...to-curb-trend/

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Spending on health care rose 4.6 percent in 2011 — up $4,500 per person, on average — according to the nonpartisan Health Care Cost Institute. That’s up from a 3.8 growth rate in 2010.
Health insurance premiums for individuals and families also climbed year-over-year, up 3 percent ($186) on average for an individual and 4 percent ($672) on average for a family,
according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
During Obama’s term, between 2009 to 2012, premiums have climbed $2,370 for the average family with an employer-provided plan – a rate faster than the during the previous four years under President George W. Bush, according to Kaiser. …
During the 2008 campaign and health care reform debate in 2009, President Obama said repeatedly that his plan would bend the cost curve downward, ultimately saving the average family $2,500 per year.
At a rally in Virginia in June 2008, Obama said: “In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year.” …
We won’t do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now,” he said. “We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.”
So yes, you quoted ONE small bls statistic which is the number of people hired month to month and ignored everyting else that doesn't fit your narrow "Obama saved the economy everything's great now" narrative. You're honestly going to sit here and try to tell me he's ben in any way a positive force on the economy?

You can't, so feel free to just accuse me of "watching too much Fox news" and put me back on ignore.

Here, you can argue with obama about whether he deserves a second term or not:
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