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Old 10-23-2012, 01:20 AM #442
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Too bad Obama lost my vote.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:30 AM #443
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Too bad those aren't valid references of what you said.
The quote was still said. Alright, lets hear what CNN or MSNBC had to say. Anyone else feel that no matter what source is used, if it isn't a source that supports gonzo, it is obviously not a credible source and wrong?
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:43 AM #444
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The quote was still said. Alright, lets hear what CNN or MSNBC had to say. Anyone else feel that no matter what source is used, if it isn't a source that supports gonzo, it is obviously not a credible source and wrong?
Your citations do not say what you said. Let me remind you what you said:

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if only I had a dollar for every time the Obama administration used name calling against romney's.
Neither of your cites contains that. And this is before we even get into the problems with those sources.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:56 AM #445
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"No, we're not calling Mitt Romney a murderer, what we are saying is that if he's elected president, a lot of people will die.' Those are two slightly different, but related issues." (MURDERER)

"The Obama campaign has called Romney a felon and a murderer." (FELON, MURDERER)

"From Obama: Romney put a dog on the roof of his car." (Just using appeal to emotion to sway voters)

"From Vice President Joe Biden: “They gonna put ya’ll back in chains.”" (RACIST, PROMOTER OF SLAVERY references)

"The Obama campaign is calling Romney an incipient slaver, an insane person, a criminal, and a killer." (SLAVER, INSANE, CRIMINAL, KILLER)

"Tax cheat, felon, murderer: meet Mitt Romney." (CHEATER, FELON, MURDERER)


Definition of name-calling: the use of offensive names especially to win an argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or project) without objective consideration of the facts

Gonzo I know you'll request a source for that definition so here you go sir: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/name-calling
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:03 AM #446
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"Tax cheat, felon, murderer: meet Mitt Romney." (CHEATER, FELON, MURDERER)
Ironic coming from obama.
Seeing as how his policies have already killed thousands of people, and ordered the deaths of Americans himself with his beloved drone strikes.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:30 AM #447
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"No, we're not calling Mitt Romney a murderer, what we are saying is that if he's elected president, a lot of people will die.' Those are two slightly different, but related issues." (MURDERER)

"The Obama campaign has called Romney a felon and a murderer." (FELON, MURDERER)

"From Obama: Romney put a dog on the roof of his car." (Just using appeal to emotion to sway voters)

"From Vice President Joe Biden: “They gonna put ya’ll back in chains.”" (RACIST, PROMOTER OF SLAVERY references)

"The Obama campaign is calling Romney an incipient slaver, an insane person, a criminal, and a killer." (SLAVER, INSANE, CRIMINAL, KILLER)

"Tax cheat, felon, murderer: meet Mitt Romney." (CHEATER, FELON, MURDERER)
Still no citations. And there are no valid examples of what you claim among those. Remember, it has to be name-calling from a member of the Obama administration.

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if only I had a dollar for every time the Obama administration used name calling against romney's.
The funny thing is many of those are actually right-wingers calling Romney names.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:13 AM #448
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I wondered about some of those "quotes" myself, so I did some Google-fu.

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"No, we're not calling Mitt Romney a murderer, what we are saying is that if he's elected president, a lot of people will die.' Those are two slightly different, but related issues." (MURDERER)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._will_die.html


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"The Obama campaign has called Romney a felon and a murderer." (FELON, MURDERER)
Not exactly.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...-killer-video/


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"From Obama: Romney put a dog on the roof of his car." (Just using appeal to emotion to sway voters)
Obama did reference that incident.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video...s-dog-17004281


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"From Vice President Joe Biden: “They gonna put ya’ll back in chains.”" (RACIST, PROMOTER OF SLAVERY references)
Someone really needs a link reference for this? Really?


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"The Obama campaign is calling Romney an incipient slaver, an insane person, a criminal, and a killer." (SLAVER, INSANE, CRIMINAL, KILLER)
It seems that not all those exact terms were used specifically and some were extrapolations from other statements.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...Obama-campaign


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"Tax cheat, felon, murderer: meet Mitt Romney." (CHEATER, FELON, MURDERER)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-believed.html

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Old 10-23-2012, 09:06 AM #449
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Someone really needs a link reference for this? Really?

gonzo gets his news from the obama campaign, what do you expect
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:37 AM #450
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Obama is hammering Romney in Florida right now, pointing out his flip flopping as a case of Romnesia. We'll see if its enough to win the state.
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In all honesty, if either campaign is able to sway a voter based on showing the opponent flip flopped, that voter has no right to vote anyways.

Anyone stupid enough to not know that both candidates flip flop and a simple youtube search would prove that simply needs to just stay home on election day.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:21 PM #452
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I was swayed to vote for Gary Johnson for president.
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In all honesty, if either campaign is able to sway a voter based on showing the opponent flip flopped, that voter has no right to vote anyways.

Anyone stupid enough to not know that both candidates flip flop and a simple youtube search would prove that simply needs to just stay home on election day.
Voter supression rhetoric! **** you, man.

Anyway, I was glad to see Obama do well at another debate, I think people will be more willing to forgive a lackluster performance at the first with two solid performances under his belt.


And on that note I will say right now I'm voting for Jill Stein, even though some of the green's platform is bat**** crazy.
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That wasn't a lackluster performance, man. That was sandbagging.

Green Party, hmm? Well, you've shown your ability to think critically. Don't stop.
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I liked in the last 2 minutes per candidate (if I remember right) before closing arguments, Romney was talking about all these things still wrong with the economy and what needed to be done to fix the issues. Next, in Obama's turn, he basically just said his rehearsed answer for the question which was essentially the exact things that Romney just proved didn't work. lol
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I wondered about some of those "quotes" myself, so I did some Google-fu.
Man you're not doing the youth of today any favors by doing their homework.

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As mentioned, not an example of the claim.

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Again, not an example of the claim.

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Again, not an example of the claim.

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Someone really needs a link reference for this? Really?
Again, not an example of the claim.

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It seems that not all those exact terms were used specifically and some were extrapolations from other statements.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...Obama-campaign
Again, not an example of the claim.

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Again, not an example of the claim.

I hope you enjoyed jamest91 wasting your time, but you should have taken my word for it and let him waste his own time.
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Ironic coming from obama.
Seeing as how his policies have already killed thousands of people, and ordered the deaths of Americans himself with his beloved drone strikes.
By Americans do you mean Anwar al Awlaki? If yes,do you have a problem with killing a traitor that advocated and possibly facilitated killing other Americans?
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Man you're not doing the youth of today any favors by doing their homework.



As mentioned, not an example of the claim.



Again, not an example of the claim.



Again, not an example of the claim.



Again, not an example of the claim.



Again, not an example of the claim.



Again, not an example of the claim.

I hope you enjoyed jamest91 wasting your time, but you should have taken my word for it and let him waste his own time.

Ah yes. This is an excellent example of a Democrat having evidence support a claim against their own views and simply trying to throw it to the side and under the rug hoping nobody notices.
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By Americans do you mean Anwar al Awlaki? If yes,do you have a problem with killing a traitor that advocated and possibly facilitated killing other Americans?
The more troubling would be al Awlaki's son though it is debatable if he was specifically targeted.

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I hope you enjoyed jamest91 wasting your time, but you should have taken my word for it and let him waste his own time.
I actually do check what people post here from time to time.

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I actually do check what people post here from time to time.

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Yeah, but this one was false on its face, we knew these were not administration officials and the administration does not do much namecalling.
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ITT: Gonzo being Gonzo.
Help out the old geezer. What does "ITT" stand for in that context?

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Yeah, but this one was false on its face, we knew these were not administration officials and the administration does not do much namecalling.
Call me a universal skeptic if you must.

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