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Old 09-10-2012, 02:12 PM #169
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Totally serious. You can't tell me what to do. You're not my government
It ain't your government eather, we don't practice Shariah law here.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:21 PM #170
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not the reason why... just trying to give another stupid reason for voting for someone like u did.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:27 PM #171
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first election i can vote and i will not be voting.
Yeah man, you're totally making a statement by not exercising your right to vote at all.

You do realize there are going to be anywhere from 4-6 candidates on the ballot (depending on your state) and you can write in whoever the **** you want, right? But hey, you're just not going to participate in the electoral process so many have fought for because you're too cool to go to the voting booth.

Coolstorybrah. I wouldn't worry, you'll get someone's attention if you just keep quiet.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:31 PM #172
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Yeah man, you're totally making a statement by not exercising your right to vote at all.

You do realize there are going to be anywhere from 4-6 candidates on the ballot (depending on your state) and you can write in whoever the **** you want, right? But hey, you're just not going to participate in the electoral process so many have fought for because you're too cool to go to the voting booth.

Coolstorybrah. I wouldn't worry, you'll get someone's attention if you just keep quiet.
I heard Mickey Mouse gets a good amount of votes each election lol
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:55 PM #173
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Well Ron Paul predicted all this so what does that make him?

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:01 PM #174
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well that could make sense since gun control laws are controlled by the state.
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you should have probably navigated that link a little more before reading the first page and posting it.... note that that act expired 8 years ago. Also note that if you navigate the links on the page you can come across pages about "Gun Laws in the US" as well as "Gun Laws by State."

You may then read all about the various versions of gun control laws for each individual state.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:39 PM #176
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You harp about gun law stance as being of your primary concern...and yet Obama has done nothing about guns whereas Romney has done several things to ban and restrict them in his home state.

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As an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama voted to ban assault weapons, to prohibit gun stores to operate within five miles of a school or park, and to limit handgun purchases to one a month. After a man was charged with illegal possession of a handgun after shooting an intruder, Obama voted against a bill that would have allowed such gun violators to claim self defense. Obama said it could have led to gun owners using their weapons in the streets.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...#ixzz266InT6bC
Granted, since becoming President he has not imposed anything anti 2nd amendment. Unless you count the current administration blocking the importation of the M1's.


I would love to have one, considering my Grandpa fought in the Korean war.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:00 PM #177
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Granted, since becoming President he has not imposed anything anti 2nd amendment. Unless you count the current administration blocking the importation of the M1's.


I would love to have one, considering my Grandpa fought in the Korean war.
Lets not forget his pushing to aprove the UN small arms treaty, and quite a number of backwater deals. Including a recent "executive order" saying the BATFE can take/cease guns without due process if they are "drug related"
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Well, he is the first black president.

I'll probably vote for someone else. I hate the two party system. Everyone who thinks voting other is a waste, I think it's a progressive idea. People have to continue to vote for other candidates to encourage others to do so, it won't really affect who gets elected this year, but it might affect the future elections and give other candidates a chance eventually.

Plus, at the rate the GOP is going, and unless something horrible happens really soon with the country, Obama is pretty much a shoe in.
Isn't that a racist thing to say?
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:32 PM #179
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Jamest- I'm not actually voting for Obama because he's cool, I'm voting for him because of his contrast with Mitt Romney in regards to foreign policy. While I do lean conservative on economic issues, I don't believe there to be a stark enough contrast of Mitt's domestic policies vs Obama's that negates the serious consequences that having a foreign policy like Mitt Romney's places on America.
see that sounds so much better! lol just annoying when u ask why people wanna vote for someone and they just say stupid crap like "idk he seems cool"
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note that that act expired 8 years ago.
Who gives a damn? YOU'RE the one who claimed that "gun control laws are controlled by the state" and the FAWB is a pretty clear example of a gun control measure implemented by the federal government.
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Who gives a damn? YOU'RE the one who claimed that "gun control laws are controlled by the state" and the FAWB is a pretty clear example of a gun control measure implemented by the federal government.
It's not really important whether it's controlled solely by one party or another. The point is that Obama would be doing something about it if he had the political capability but he knows he doesn't. For this reason he is attempting the back-door route (as is his habbit when he can't get things done through congress) in a number of ways such as those mentioned by Overbear. He would be all the more dangerous in a second term with nothing to lose.
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Just like your pal Romney doing it without giving a **** in MA?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:28 AM #183
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The point is that Obama would be doing something about it if he had the political capability but he knows he doesn't.
Yes, yes we know that 0bammer would be forcibly sodomizing 10-year-old boys and would be requiring every white woman to receive a government sponsored abortion thrice yearly, if only he had the political capability.

For as intelligent as you are, your Obama derangement is quite perplexing.

EDIT: 1. Can you or OB explain the UN small arms treaty and how it attempts to work around the 2nd Amendment?

2. Civil forfeiture of assets is in no way new to the current administration. You want to compare/contrast the number of civil forfeitures between this administration and the previous?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:30 AM #184
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Just like your pal Romney doing it without giving a **** in MA?
No see, it's different by an order of magnitude: Romney's a Republican.
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The difference is BOTH of them have Anti-Gun history on the state level. That does not mean either will do anything on the federal level. So in essence, they are both just as bad.
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Yes, yes we know that 0bammer would be forcibly sodomizing 10-year-old boys and would be requiring every white woman to receive a government sponsored abortion thrice yearly, if only he had the political capability.
This is a straw man obviously but I genuinely feel that he will continue to abuse the constitution all the moreso by utilizing regulatory procedure of existing laws and executive orders to accomplish the things he can't do through orthodox means because there will be no political fallout for him. He has shown that he doesn't care much about collateral damage to his party in the way that he has handled his fundraising cash.

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For as intelligent as you are, your Obama derangement is quite perplexing.
I view him as a dangerous ideologue. Even if I agreed with the things he is doing, I would not agree with the way in which he has done them.

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EDIT: 1. Can you or OB explain the UN small arms treaty and how it attempts to work around the 2nd Amendment?
The treaty aims to ban the private sale, private transfer, and private ownership of all semiautomatic firearms. It also stiffens licencing requirements and creates and international gun registry opening the door for full scale confiscation. This is a breach of the second amendment as well as the 10th as it puts the federal governement in charge of all these things and will override current state gun laws.

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2. Civil forfeiture of assets is in no way new to the current administration. You want to compare/contrast the number of civil forfeitures between this administration and the previous?
It's not good under any administration. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison though. I liked Bush on a number of things but was by no means a die hard Bush supporter.
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Obama isn't doing anything with regard to gun control because Congress wants nothing to do with it. If he thought he could get it through Congress, I think he'd reinstate the AWB in a heartbeat.

Romney is more uncertain in that regard. I think that in his heart, he's somewhat anti-gun and wouldn't mind an assault weapons ban of some sort. But he might veto one anyway because he know he'll lose a sizable portion of his base if he doesn't.

In the end, I don't trust either one of them to protect the 2nd Amendment.
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