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Old 03-17-2012, 03:31 PM #1
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Obama 2012

Don't pretend that things aren't better now than they were in '08.


Even if you don't appreciate the emotional aspect of this video, I think it does a pretty damn good job of capturing some of the things that Obama has done in his first 4 years, while facing likely more opposition and scrutiny than any other president has ever had to deal with. He hasn't done everything perfectly, or in a manner that could please everybody. But make no mistake, he has been a very good leader of our Nation. And when you consider who the GOP has propped up to oppose him in their primaries these last months, I can't believe it is even a question of who to elect.

Well worth the 17 minutes of sitting still. Do it.
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:29 PM #2
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Like the smallest economic growth since they began keeping record in the 1940's?
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Like the smallest economic growth since they began keeping record in the 1940's?
so then why do republicans want to tighten monetary and fiscal policy?
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:33 PM #4
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Don't pretend that things aren't better now than they were in '08.
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They're not.
We are no longer is "crisis mode" and have moved into "recovery mode". That is progress. Period. Now we may argue what the better path of recovery is and whether Obama's policies are doing well, but you cannot dispute that we survived the crisis with his policies (not necessarily due to) and have moved past it.


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Like the smallest economic growth since they began keeping record in the 1940's?
In one of the biggest financial collapses in history? Shocking.
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:24 PM #7
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I'm voting for Obama simply because the GOP is ****ed.
This. Obama has been disappointing in a lot of aspects but with the cluster**** that is the GOP, excluding Paul, he looks better than his current opponents.
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What is it like to live with your head up your ***?
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very god leader? he has nothing to do isreal, soicialized medicare, and not to mention has a wife that will come and take your kids food away. fair enough, i dont like any of the republicans, but i cant vote for that.
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very god leader? he has nothing to do isreal, soicialized medicare, and not to mention has a wife that will come and take your kids food away. fair enough, i dont like any of the republicans, but i cant vote for that.
I don't post in here and rarely ever read anything in here. So I don't know most of the posters here. Did you forget the or in that post or was it serious?
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abslolutely serious. where am i wrong?
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can you explain the difference between mitt romney's massachussetts health care bill and obamacare?
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Aside from my usual gripes about NDAA, the trespassing bill, unauthorized military action abroad in Pakistan, Syria, Libya, and Uganda, things are NOT better in terms of civil liberties (with the exception of DADT). OR economic growth despite the blip of recent "stats"

-Has Feds raid Gibson to enforce a foreign law that was not even broken, costing Gibson, an American company exporting lots of goods around the world, millions in materials and lost revenue/production.

-Still supports torture, gitmo, Bush doctrine, foreign aid to enemies and Israel.

-Does relax DoJ role when raiding medical cannabis dispensaries, despite he himself admitting to using when he was younger, so he's willing to continue prison industrial complex and ruin lives of people for doing something he himself admitted to but never got caught for

-Operation fast and furious happened under his watch; moves border patrol from southern border to Afghanistan to help them defend their borders.

-Bailed out GM largely for political reasons over his claims of economic reasons (UAW was a huge contributor to his campaign), meanwhile he takes credit for their "success" (reports show volt costs tax payers 250k
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16192

-Continues revolving door and big corporatism support with Monsanto appointment http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=433x749738
Despite Ford not wanting or taking bailout money and remaining a competitor, Toyota had faulty claims of accelerator sticking and the tsunami/Fukushima disaster, pretty easy to compete when a major competitor home land is underwater, but Obama can get away with taking credit for GM

****load more appointment here http://www.politico.com/news/stories...713_Page2.html

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Top donors are mostly big banks Bush bailed out via TARP, http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...?cid=N00009638 funny that they would support someone who claims to be for the common person representing hope and change here's 2012 http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/co...2&id=N00009638

I may update this as I remember more.

Obama 2012 more war, more spending, more corporatism, more erosion of civil rights, who cares we didn't use them anyway. Obama 2012.

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He lost my vote. I can't in good conscience vote for guy who supports Bush's warmongering. Taking the country to war in Libya without Congressional approval was unconstitutional and Obama should have been impeached for it. It's time for a real change instead of just changing party names. Patriot Act 2.0 can go to hell.

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-Does relax DoJ role when raiding medical cannabis dispensaries, despite he himself admitting to using when he was younger, so he's willing to continue prison industrial complex and ruin lives of people for doing something he himself admitted to but never got caught for
If Obama admitted to shoplifting when he was a teenager, should he not enforce that law either? If Obama used to speed when he was a teenager, should we get rid of speed limits?

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The economy is in recovery mode, at least until we meet up with the can we kicked further down the road. It's just a can, not a grenade or a landmine. No worries.

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A can full of prosperity.
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