Sooooo if the PSP goes to 10 BPS

gijoe1254 · 12-16-2008, 11:40 AM

Okay first and foremost, I know that there have been NUMEROUS threads about ramping in the NCPA, none of which has done anything more than stimulate conversation. I know from posting in those threads that Raehl always said it would be a possibility if 10 BPS could be agreed upon, and now that the PSP is thinking of going to 10 BPS would this be something college teams would like to do. Keep in mind this is only for conversation and I have no say in this happening, just interested to see what the NCPA players think about a hypothetical 10 BPS ramping in the league... so for those who want to discuss here you go.

Skillet42565 · 12-16-2008, 11:44 AM

I'm pretty against it, personally. I can shoot fast enough in semi, its all I've shot for years. I think running and gunning in semi is a necessary skill to have.

raehl · 12-16-2008, 11:53 AM

If and when PSP announces 10 bps, we'll have to have a conversation on whether we'd like to move to 10 ramping. I think it would be a good idea - then we can practice with non-college teams, and it would eliminate the issues we have with trying to enforce semi-auto.

Probably start with Class A and see how it goes.

- Chris

captshorty7 · 12-16-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet42565

I'm pretty against it, personally. I can shoot fast enough in semi, its all I've shot for years. I think running and gunning in semi is a necessary skill to have.

i agree...i have put so much practice working on my skills in semi especially with the off hand...it takes skill out of playing...ramping in my mind is like cheating, you need a board to help you keep a steady 10 bps

LumpyLinebacker · 12-16-2008, 12:14 PM

I don't think ramping is cheating as much as I think being able to shoot fast in semi is an advantage. I think semi is fine the way it is, why change it?

newtippymann · 12-16-2008, 12:45 PM

yeah like after having played psp, cfoa, mxl like i realized how much advantage i gained from having to play in semi for years. like when i first got on this mxl team i noticed some kids had trouble using their off hand which blew my mind because i spent so much time working my off hand in semi that when i was allowed to ramp it was like easy mode....

I personally dont really care all that much if the NCPA went to ramping but if it were my call i wouldnt do it just because playing in semi helps develop your skills so much more.

JMills87 · 12-16-2008, 01:00 PM

To all of the people saying ramping is like cheating - you're dumb.

I don't really have a preference between semi and ramping for this league, but if PSP dropped down to 10bps I'd be all for ramping at NCPA's.

mikenawnaw · 12-16-2008, 01:06 PM

why not semi-capped at 10 (or is that not an option on most boards?)

This keeps the "guns skills" of having to walk it in the game.

I really don't care; ive shot 10 capped ever since i started playing and will continue no matter what the ncpa decides to do.

runner31490 · 12-16-2008, 01:08 PM

whats the point of semi if you cap it

gijoe1254 · 12-16-2008, 01:08 PM

my only gripe with Semi is the enforcement of bounce and such. With ramping everyone is ramping, bounce doesn't exist pretty much. Raehl , i agree about waiting to see what the PSP decides, i just wanted to see what the college community felt about it. I do like how it would make it more manageable to scrimmage other non- college teams too. I have come to enjoy the semi auto rule in the NCPA, but i also felt ramping levels the playing field, and at 10 bps, could promote more movement.

mikenawnaw · 12-16-2008, 01:17 PM

when a gun is "bouncing, ussually 2-balls come within .1MS of each other..

Pulled.

JMills87 · 12-16-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mikenawnaw

when a gun is "bouncing, ussually 2-balls come within .1MS of each other..

Pulled.

lol..

raehl · 12-16-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikenawnaw

when a gun is "bouncing, ussually 2-balls come within .1MS of each other..

Pulled.

I think you need to check your units....

0.1 ms = one ten thousandth of a second - or a rate of 5 cases a second.

0.1 Ms = one hundred seconds - or a rate of 0.01 bps

- Chris

DaEagleEye8 · 12-16-2008, 02:08 PM

I'd be cool with it either way. Just like Jmills I don't really have a preference. Ramping would be fine by me.

JMills87 · 12-16-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaEagleEye8

I'd be cool with it either way. Just like Jmills I don't really have a preference. Ramping would be fine by me.

Hugo make my DM9 nice.

LumpyLinebacker · 12-16-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by raehl

I think you need to check your units....

0.1 ms = one ten thousandth of a second - or a rate of 5 cases a second.

0.1 Ms = one hundred seconds - or a rate of 0.01 bps

- Chris

isn't "M" the sign for Mega? which is Million?

meaning that the original poster was even more wrong?

ocmadballer · 12-16-2008, 03:34 PM

I agree that allowing ramping "levels" the playing field, and that is exactly why I don't really like it. When you allow ramping you take away the advantage a person might have had due to the superior gun skills he had developed through lots of practice. Plus ramping at 10 bps really isn't ramping, it's more like a frustrating speed cap since I can consistantly shoot faster than that in semi. The only upside I see to it is that it would hypothetically be easier to make sure people are shooting in legal modes.

raehl · 12-16-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LumpyLinebacker

isn't "M" the sign for Mega? which is Million?

meaning that the original poster was even more wrong?

M can mean 1,000 or 1,000,000, although I suppose one would assume 1,000,000.

- Chris

captshorty7 · 12-16-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ocmadballer

I agree that allowing ramping "levels" the playing field, and that is exactly why I don't really like it. When you allow ramping you take away the advantage a person might have had due to the superior gun skills he had developed through lots of practice. Plus ramping at 10 bps really isn't ramping, it's more like a frustrating speed cap since I can consistantly shoot faster than that in semi. The only upside I see to it is that it would hypothetically be easier to make sure people are shooting in legal modes.

i agree

thru DA glass · 12-16-2008, 04:31 PM

it could limit teams from joining the NCPA.
example: one college wants to try out the tournament scene, but they don't have able guns. whether they are mech guns or just don't have that feature.
just my .02

edit:
but I like ramping. so I don't care.

raehl · 12-16-2008, 04:41 PM

I don't see that having mech guns with 10 bps ramping is much different than what we have now - a lot of those electronic guns give a little help up to 10 bps.

What if it was 8 BPS?

I actually spent some time shooting guns at various BPS at DYE last month, and really though 8 was perfect for the sport long-term. It's right before the point where a series of individual shots turns into a stream, at least as far as your brain is able to tell.

- Chris