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Old 10-04-2012, 12:42 AM #1
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05 speed trouble shooting help

I have a 05 speed and i was working just fine until i let my brother use it. the eyes kind of stpped working on him while we were at the field. i took it apart and cleaned it but still no luck. basically what is happening is the gun turns on fine says i have a full new battery. goes into eyes on, no ball in breach. when i put a ball in it will read with the eyes and i pull the trigger it will go back to a no ball in breach mode for about 2-3 seconds then reads a bal again and i can shoot. it will just keep repeating this. when i turn eyes off it rips like it alwas has.

If anybody can help that would be awesome.

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Old 10-04-2012, 12:52 AM #2
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Try cleaning the plug end of the eyes with rubbing alcohol and a cotton swab, and make sure you're using a fresh, new, non-rechargeable 9 volt fresh out of the package. That will rule out any battery related issues or contact problems on the connector. If that doesn't help, you'll probably need to pick up some new eyes.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:15 AM #3
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Thanks i will try that. I pulled the eyes out and cleaned them just didnt try cleaning the connection. and i will try another new battery. i am just hoping its not the board. and if it is i hope that 7th element board works out soon.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:31 PM #4
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From what you're describing the problem is exponentially more likely to be the eyes than the board.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:01 PM #5
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even if with the eyes on and i put a ball in there then take the ball out it actually works but if you pull the trigger is when i takes a few seconds to "read" i guess you could say a ball in the chamber?
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even if with the eyes on and i put a ball in there then take the ball out it actually works but if you pull the trigger is when i takes a few seconds to "read" i guess you could say a ball in the chamber?
Are you tapping the trigger or holding it?

The reason I ask is that all sorts of boards have a "Forced Shot" when you hold the trigger. This causes the noid to activate whether the eyes see a ball or not.
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Does the same behavior occur with the eyes turned off? If the gun shoots normally with no delay when the eyes are disabled, the problem is definitely the eyes themselves and not the board.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:57 PM #8
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Yea i am not holding the trigger down just tapping it like i would walk the trigger. and it works just fine when the eyes are off. it rips
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:12 AM #9
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That is definitely an eye issue then. If the problem were with the trigger switch or some other activation issue with the board you would see the same behavior with the eyes turned off. Definitely give the cleaning and battery a shot. One other thing you might want to check is how tightly the eye ribbon fits into the connector on the board. If the pins in the connector are loose sometimes you will get intermittent performance. It's much more likely just an eye problem though.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:16 AM #10
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i am trying to get this video up to show you what it is doing


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Old 10-05-2012, 12:19 AM #11
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K yea the eye band fits nice and snug in the connector. i will try cleaning the connector tomarrow. were would you go to find eyes now that angel is no more?
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:11 AM #12
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Dr.Strangelove, who has been helping you in this thread, makes fantastic wired eyes. I have some in my A1 and me makes some for the 05 Speed platform as well. Check the link in his signature.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:27 AM #13
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Have you actually tested the eyes with paint and air? If not, give that a try before you buy anything. Blocking the eyes with an object and firing without paint or air will not work because the board has a delay for the movement of the bolt, and if it doesn't detect that movement it assumes the eyes are blocked and just kicks the ROF down.
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Have you actually tested the eyes with paint and air? If not, give that a try before you buy anything. Blocking the eyes with an object and firing without paint or air will not work because the board has a delay for the movement of the bolt, and if it doesn't detect that movement it assumes the eyes are blocked and just kicks the ROF down.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:31 AM #15
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i was at the field when it started doing it so there was air and paint. but i will try again and if it is bad i will have to buy some eyes. i am almost thinking i want to keep this gun. i see there is still alot of angel people out there.
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That's cause Angels are complete tanks. You can leave an angel in a box for a couple years, just air it up and go play.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:37 AM #17
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I Know what you are talking about on that one. Mine sat in a gear bag for 6 years then I pulled it out and went and played a few times. let my brother use it once and this happened
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I Know what you are talking about on that one. Mine sat in a gear bag for 6 years then I pulled it out and went and played a few times. let my brother use it once and this happened
Just looked at your thread. Very nice looking gun, anno is in good shape. If I were you, I'd just hold on to it. Even as just a backup, its a backup that will always work for you. Well... at least once you get this eye situation sorted out. Your brother didn't take anything apart did he?

What happens if the eyes are plugged in wrong? If the plug is upside down? Its been a while since I've had an angel with that style of eyes.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:00 PM #19
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You can put them in either way... if it has the stock ribbon eyes, even the slightest sneeze when they're exposed could destroy them...

It's well known they don't last very long. That's why doc came up with his own solution
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:03 AM #20
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well i have had it apart a few times in the last few days, i tried cleaning the ribbon with my fingers. it cleaned up but there was some bumps in the ribbon. i think i want a set of those laser eyes anyways. the question is yellow or blue lol. or possible red.
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Purely personal preference, but I think the blue would look great with the graphite finish.
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