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Old 08-13-2012, 07:12 AM #1
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$400 gun v $1200 gun rec ball, the ultimate question!

I always wanted to ask this question because I dont know how most different guns work. I just picked up a DP g3 spec r (mrsp 350-400 new). It should be here within the week and I'm extremely excited about getting it. Its going to be the first electric gun I've ever shot and I scooped it up for 150 . I was also looking at ego's and eteks for 400-800 used (up to 1200 retail ). WTF is the difference between these guns. what justify's the huge gap in price other then WoW factor? or is that it? a extra 5 bps and a super sexy gun? and can I get my DP g3 up to par with a ego?

kinda like owning a lambo, you get that wow factor and power, (im leaving handling out. I feel the agility of a gun is the actual player, like a suspension is to a car). but for 30k less i can make a modified mustang stomp out a lambo.

please shed some light :/

(i will revise this later today after i get some sleep lol )
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:21 AM #2
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i think to sum it up i own a 2012 accord, and i now own a g3 S-R, I would love to own a ego + lambo but its unnecessary. like a bada$$ luxury. (PS: I plan on buying a ego within a few months because they look so badass )
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Quality of manufacture process, quality of parts involved, paying for the name. Numerous factors go into the "why" something is priced the way it is. Take a look at resell value. If you bought a car brand new for 15K and drove it off the lot only for it to be worth 3K, I'd say you didn't buy a car worth having, especially one that will treat you well with little maintenance. Same goes for markers.
Just because it costs more doesn't mean it's better. Generally it's a clue but it's not set in stone. Play with the G3. Learn it and revise your game with it. Become a better player, and then move on if you feel the need. Don't buy something out right thinking the gun is what is holding you back.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:55 AM #4
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Differences-

Quality of materials
Enhanced performance
More/Advanced features

It isn't necessary to have the top of the line guns but there is a reason they cost more then the lower end markers. It's more than just speed and looks. Compare a Mercedes Benz to a Honda Accord. Both will get you the same place at the same time (if driving the speed limit). But the Mercedes is going to offer more towards it being a better ride. It's going to offer you more interior features. Again none necessary but still nice to have.

Let's look back at paintball again. Etek4 LT $500 brand new. Ego11 $1250 brand new (well less now due to price drop by that's besides the point). The Etek4 will get the job done fine but the Ego11 is a higher quality marker. It's comes with a LCD programmable board the the Etek doesn't. An aluminum grip frame that the Etek4 LT doesn't. It has an adjustable solenoid that the Etek doesn't and can't. It comes with the most updated bolt and POPs asa that the Etek4 doesn't. Another internal part that I just can't think of the name of at this time. Now most of these things you could buy and swap into the Etek4, except the solenoid and one other internal part, but the cost to do so would almost be the price of the higher end version.

And this same thing goes for other markers in comparison to their lower end versions.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:31 AM #5
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these guys hit it right on the head...if your only playing rec ball and are wanting a really nice gun...empire axe...can find a really nice one for 2-300 used...i love axes...solid shooting..efficient and i just like their feel..my tourney gun is an 09 geo... to each his own man...do what fits ur play style and wallet...hope this helps
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:02 PM #6
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i dont plan on getting rid of the g3 for quite some time, but I was just curious on the ~800 price difference. But yea, you guys nailed it on the head thanks.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:06 PM #7
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yea what they said but, no a mustang will not ever stomp a lambo regardless of what you put into it.
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It comes with the most updated bolt and POPs asa that the Etek4 doesn't and can't.
Um... do you know something Planet Eclipse doesn't know???

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As with all Eclipse markers since 2007 the Etek4 utilizes the T-Slot Rail. The Etek4 will also accept a POPS ASA.

The Etek4 will accept Cure3+ and Cure4 upgrade bolts.
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Um... do you know something Planet Eclipse doesn't know???
Typo. When I edited it I meant to add that part after the adjustable solenoid, which should be kinda evident as per one of the final sentences of that paragraph. But going to edit it now.
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i think to sum it up i own a 2012 accord, and i now own a g3 S-R, I would love to own a ego + lambo but its unnecessary. like a bada$$ luxury. (PS: I plan on buying a ego within a few months because they look so badass )
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To be honest you are better off buying the cheaper gun which will shoot paintballs at the same velocity and rate of fire. You can use the money you save to play more often, and get better. Paintball players all want to have the latest and greatest but the differences in the guns are extremely minimal.
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wow factor and reliability, you'll understand reliability problems once u get a gun for less than $600 msrp
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yea what they said but, no a mustang will not ever stomp a lambo regardless of what you put into it.
You think so if you believe that statement is true stick to paintball because u dont kno much about cars.
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kinda like owning a lambo, you get that wow factor and power... but for 30k less i can make a modified mustang stomp out a lambo.
Lol, no. Perhaps on a straightaway, but you could never take a Lamborghini in the corners. Same concept with a paintball gun.
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To be honest you are better off buying the cheaper gun which will shoot paintballs at the same velocity and rate of fire. You can use the money you save to play more often, and get better. Paintball players all want to have the latest and greatest but the differences in the guns are extremely minimal.
Wouldn't say extremely minimal. That's kind of a big understatement. Compare a Tippmann X7 or Crossover (both at $400) to a BL Victory V2. Both inline poppets. Would you really say the differences between the two are "extremely minimal"?

Or a Azodin Zenith compared to a 2011 G6R? A DP G4 compared to a Clone GT?
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In a simple answer no your DP will never compete will any planet eclipse gun the ego is 5000000x better the milling , stacked tube design , led screen, shaft barrel, and the internals are so much better I always hear about people complaining about there dps noids breaking
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i just recently got back into paint ball and only plan on doing rec ball i had a idea of what i wanted to spend and right away started looking at what electros i could get for the price i was looking for but since only doing rec ball i didn't car about turnament rule and tried my friend tac 1 and found a used one a week later. with a shp reg the mags can out shoot alot of electro so just saying if you only doing rec ball whay only look in one area.
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Everything is relative. If your only going to play once a month or occasionaly i would not buy a high end. Especially with how far mid level gear has come over the past few years. Also for rec players the used market should be more of a focus. Why buy a 1300 gun if your only going to use it once a month for a year ( roughly 12 cases), barely breaking it in and then have to sell it for a lot less. Instead look for a competitive players used equipment. Then you can save half the money (money you wouldnt get out of a new marker based on how much you would use it) and have a gun thats actually broken in and shooting great. If your someone that only buys new then go mid level. The advantages of the next step up like efficiency, being able to say shoot another 100-200 psi deeper into the tank before drop off, consisency at high rates of fire, and so on wont be as rewarding in recball compared to the price difference
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Everything is relative. If your only going to play once a month or occasionaly i would not buy a high end. Especially with how far mid level gear has come over the past few years. Also for rec players the used market should be more of a focus. Why buy a 1300 gun if your only going to use it once a month for a year ( roughly 12 cases), barely breaking it in and then have to sell it for a lot less. Instead look for a competitive players used equipment. Then you can save half the money (money you wouldnt get out of a new marker based on how much you would use it) and have a gun thats actually broken in and shooting great. If your someone that only buys new then go mid level. The advantages of the next step up like efficiency, being able to say shoot another 100-200 psi deeper into the tank before drop off, consisency at high rates of fire, and so on wont be as rewarding in recball compared to the price difference
Agree with you save for the parts about buying new vs used.
1- everyone selling used gear isn't honest. And not to say that they will rip you off but many will talk their markers up to being in better condition then it really is. And for someone still new to the game, buying used, they do run a good chance of getting a marker that isn't working properly.
2- there is nothing that says you have to sell old gear/guns ever. People have become so use to gun whoring that everyone seems to assume that you have to sell your gun for a new one every year.
3- I would never just straight out suggest someone spend $1000+ for a marker unless they previously expressed they were considering doing so already. That's a lot of money to drop. I know. I've done it numerous times. But if it's within a persons budget and it's what they want I see no reason to discourage them from doing so.
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Or a Azodin Zenith compared to a 2011 G6R? A DP G4 compared to a Clone GT?
Actually, I'd rather have the cheaper version hands down in those two examples. No question, money not an issue.

Mostly because I DON'T buy guns with proprietary ASA's. Absolutely worthless to me.
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You think so if you believe that statement is true stick to paintball because u dont kno much about cars.
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