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Old 11-28-2009, 11:29 PM #1
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what do i need to properly lower my car?

im buying some car parts next week. Id like to lower my car (2005 ford focus) i know i need springs, but do i really need shocks and struts?? is there anything else i need? thanks guys
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:35 PM #2
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Just cut the springs, stock shocks and struts are fine.













Unless you want to do it right. Shocks/struts are more important to your ride quality and handling than the springs are.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:38 PM #3
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Never cut your springs, ever. You can put in new springs, and then add shocks/struts later. I suggest new shocks/struts then springs.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:42 PM #4
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There are several ways.

1. Grow Mustache.

2. Drive around your obese girlfriend and her mother.

3. Trace your family tree far enough back to some Hispanic heritage.

4. Just buy new springs, if you're not going for performance you don't need shocks and struts.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:43 PM #5
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yes i want to do it right. any other parts you recomend i buy while the car is on the lift?
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:45 PM #6
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If you really want to improve handling, front and rear sway bars while your at it (if you don't have 'em already)
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:48 PM #7
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4. Just buy new springs, if you're not going for performance you don't need shocks and struts.
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yes i want to do it right. any other parts you recomend i buy while the car is on the lift?
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:59 PM #8
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I'm sure this saying gets old, but I have a friend who only bought Tein springs for his Sentra and hasn't had a suspension related problem since.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:15 AM #9
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ground control coilovers eibach springs and tokiko adjustable struts will handle like its on rails if you set it up correctly
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:15 AM #10
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If you just buy lowering springs you will kill your shocks.
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:00 AM #11
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If you really want to improve handling, front and rear sway bars while your at it (if you don't have 'em already)
sway bars (adjustable) are a last resort for people that know how to properly set up a suspension to make it neutral. sways will make it corner flatter, but also reduce grip
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:42 AM #12
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you're gonna want drop spindles, you can safely drop an inch and a half with a stock front beam, however much past that and you'll need a narrowed beam to clear the fenders.

3" is enough to clear just about from lock up to lock up. keep in mind type 2 and Porsche disc brake conversions push your track width out by about an inch (1/2" on each side) so if you have that, you may want to go to a 4" narrowed beam. when you narrow the front beam you need new, shorter tie rods.

rear end is substantially cheaper and easier, but more time consuming. the torsion bar has different spline sizes, so you turn the trailing arm on the tortion bar until you reach the desired height. its a lot of guess and check, pretty tedious. and the spring plate can sometimes be a ***** to get off it's lower stop.

keep in mind if you have a swing axle, you're going to have fairly extreme negative camber. this is unavoidable, short of grinding the welds off the tubes and rewelding.

with an IRS, you can adjust the camber, same as always, it's likely even at full positive adjustment, you'll have a slight negative camber, but then you'll just have a sweet JDM tyte rear end.


that's how i lower my car at least. Maybe they work the same way.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:12 PM #13
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I lowered my 2004 focus with Eibach Sport line springs and took it for an alignment. Thats it and no suspention problems after 4 yrs.

i'd recommend a camber kit.for the front, but.on the 00-07 models it is not "nessessary" unless you drop it more than 1.5 inches.

If your just wanting to lower it. Springs are good. If you want performance handeling you need all the sway bars, struts and what not.

I went the cheap route and did springs. The focus' handling is greatly improved with a 1" drop and 17" rim with a 40 offset. the focus really isn't a car to dump money into unless its a SVT that actually holds some value.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:13 PM #14
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:15 PM #15
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:35 PM #16
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are you ****ing kidding me? its 3 years old. Play pursuit else where and blow up your garbage car.
Yes it is garbage. Thats why i didnt spend a grand on the suspention. A $4k car is still a $4k car no matter how nice the suspention is.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:26 PM #17
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are you ****ing kidding me? its 3 years old. Play pursuit else where and blow up your garbage car.
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They need to hand out a **** ton of negative pursuit points for crap like this
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:46 PM #18
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Half of these answers are ****ing retarded.

Do it the right way or do not lower it. Its a focus dude...
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:56 PM #20
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if its just a daily that u just want to look cool just get some sportlines. my first post was hypocritical. my first car i did sportlines on and a camber kit, got an allignment and told myself id just buy shocks when they blew since it just took an afternoon to install. 30k miles later it ran fine. i wasnt racing the car it just drove like stock but lower. so if thats all u care about meh who cares. some cars the shocks get raped quick though and that wouldnt be worth it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:24 PM #21
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Just cut the springs, stock shocks and struts are fine.
This. Or PM Clawhammer, he knows all about lowering cars
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