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Old 07-16-2012, 10:16 AM #1
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You have nothing to do with your success...

If you're a visionary willing to put your whole life and money on the line taking on 100% of the liabilty and possibly your families future then who gives a ****. You had nothing to do with it so it's time to pony up and let Obama spend your money for you....




obama the great divider, not since lincoln have we had a president piss off so many people
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:57 AM #2
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He's a verifiable idiot with no clue whatsoever about much in the way of anything. All he has is his destructive, oppressive ideology and a willing accomplice media.

I mean, the guy is on camera saying that he thinks ATMs steal jobs ffs.
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So when I got my degree was it the professors who gave me passing grades that gave me the degree or myself earning it by doing the work?

Sure, I was given a job but that was based on my work prior and then continued work. Not really sure where my handout is but I am waiting.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:28 AM #4
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So when I got my degree was it the professors who gave me passing grades that gave me the degree or myself earning it by doing the work?

Sure, I was given a job but that was based on my work prior and then continued work. Not really sure where my handout is but I am waiting.
that's right...the government was nice enough to give that professor a job that taught you and that employer, that probably got a government backed loan somewhere along the way, was nice enough to higher you. It's like the 6 degrees of separation....it all goes back to the federal government.

it's the most perverted way of justifying big government that i've ever seen
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:29 AM #5
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If they "gave" it to me why the **** am I paying student loans then?
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:32 AM #6
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So my small business that I've put blood sweat and tears into for the past 3 years was the direct result of the government? Funny, because all I ever see are bills and more chemical regulations every year hindering my progress.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:39 AM #7
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If they "gave" it to me why the **** am I paying student loans then?
no need to worry because the college bubble is the next thing to go pop and all these student loans will be forgiven due to the artificially inflated tuition rates that the government has created...and supported.

it's just like the housing market
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Thankfully all of these morons have fake degrees and nothing useful. Might still be hope for me yet.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:40 AM #9
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I mean, the guy is on camera saying that he thinks ATMs steal jobs ffs.
do you truly doubt that technology can replace humans and ruin a job market?
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do you truly doubt that technology can replace humans and ruin a job market?
maybe we should go back to the 18th century and everyone can plow their own fields
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We should ban all robotics in factories so we can have less productivity and more low paying jobs.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:48 AM #12
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what i'm getting out of all this is progressivism isn't very progressive at all.
More like a handicap for the have-nots at the expense of true progress.
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please, gentlemen. lets not instantly get snarky over this point (owait,ST: P).

technology marching quickly without giving society time to adapt can be harmful. we've already seen streamlined factories putting many blue collar workers out of their jobs in the past, it's not a ridiculous notion to think that technology can be as harmful to society as it is useful.
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He was saying if you have a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges to help that business succeed, someone else did. He never said you didn't build your own business.

Are you purposely taking that quote completely out of context?
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Sure, someone else built the roads, what does that really have to do with someone else's success? That person still had to do work. Why belittle their success, it is not like they had any extra special help. Same blank slate everyone else had.
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Sure, someone else built the roads, what does that really have to do with someone else's success? That person still had to do work. Why belittle their success, it is not like they had any extra special help. Same blank slate everyone else had.
Ok, but that misquote was used to make people try and believe Obama doesn't feel exactly as you do, when I'm sure he does (considering he build himself up from the bottom)

Bad, dishonest OP. Doesn't really help your cause. Just makes you guys look dumb and desperate.
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Well, he should be thanking slave traders then, because he wouldn't be the first black president if they had never taken people out of Africa. lrn2obamalogic.
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Obama built himself from the bottom? Riiiight...
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i finally watched video, obviously a case of poor choice of words. his point, though, was clearly that 'no man is an island'.

it's cool how we can glean the point of an entire speech from a 35 second clip.
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He was saying if you have a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges to help that business succeed, someone else did. He never said you didn't build your own business.

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"if you got a business, you didn't build that" - Obama

The federal government didn't build most of the roads i use....the municipality did. It's why i pay local and state taxes and it's why toll roads exist.
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