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Old 07-29-2012, 07:06 AM #1
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What is the truth about this man?

(The definition of Muhammad the Messenger of Allah) Peace be upon you Mohammed bin Abdullah bin Abdul Muttalib peace be upon him

He was born in 570 AD and died in 633 AD
Many people in these days of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Who is it exactly? What did he teach? He loves a lot of people do not do some of them? Did he live up to his? Did the holy man? Was he a prophet of God? What is the truth about this man? You be the judge!

Here are the facts as narrated by thousands of people, many of whom knew the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and knew him personally.
He was born to the lineage of Mecca and the oldest tribes.
• named "Muhammad" is derived from the source, "Hamad," and the public since that time and until this very moment, God inherits the earth and them arriving him many times per day, - blessings of Allah be upon Muhammad peace be upon him -

• He never habits of the tribe in the worship of idols, idols or gods that they fell into.
• He believes that God is one God and must be worshiped alone, without any partner.
• He was revered and respected name of God never took a jest or ridicule was not used for the purposes or the interests of no use.
• He despised false worship and all the consequent behaviors and transactions degenerate.
• committed to the application of all religious teachings, "the teachings of one God," as did the prophets before him.
• He never. He advised others not to commit this shameful act.
• He forbade the hills as he did before Christ, peace be upon him centuries.
• He never gambled and did not allow it.
• did not drink alcohol, though it was a very normal thing for people of his time.
• backbite not anyone ever, and shows what he hears from gossip and backbiting.
• He fasted closer to Almighty God and away from the desires of him.
• He said that the Messiah Jesus son of Mary - peace be upon him - is a miracle of God's creation and that the mother of the Virgin of the best

• He never. He advised others not to commit this shameful act.
• He forbade the hills as he did before Christ, peace be upon him centuries.
• He never gambled and did not allow it.
• did not drink alcohol, though it was a very normal thing for people of his time.
• backbite not anyone ever, and shows what he hears from gossip and backbiting.
• He fasted closer to Almighty God and away from the desires of him.
• He said that the Messiah Jesus son of Mary - peace be upon him - is a miracle of God's creation and that the mother of the Virgin of the best creation of Almighty God.
• He ordered the reunion of one family and reverence for family ties, also re-building relationships between family members.

• urged his followers to engage women through legal marriage and deprived of adultery.
• He insisted - upon him blessings and peace - to give women their rights of dowry, inheritance and property. . . .
• All manners of noble patience and humility, and others had to admit to everyone who knew him by creating Hamid, who is unparalleled among humans.

A - did not lie Muhammad - peace be upon him - never, did not betray the covenants did not false witness, never. Was known by all the tribes in Mecca, known Saadiq Secretary.
B - has not weighed - peace be upon him - never, and did not have relations outside of marriage did not accept such acts even though it was very common at that time.
T - not associated with any woman except in the framework of legitimate marriage and the presence of witnesses according to law.

W - relationship with Ms. Aisha - may Allah be pleased with them - was a valid marriage relationship we know the details of the conversations, which shared the Aisha as the highest relationship between a man and a woman full of love and respect. Ayesha is considered one of the best of Roy talk about the Prophet - peace be upon him - was not only one day the wife of the Messenger of Allah, were not linked to any other man, the Prophet did not tell him - peace be upon him - that is never a negative attitude.

C - Campus - peace be upon him - killing until it is clear from the rule of God in the situation. As God's teachings in this regard: Allah has permitted to kill all of the experience of Muslims and Islam, but fighting on the border with the province, including that of God on this matter.
H - Islam has forbidden the killing of any innocent life.

X - never happened no genocide of Jews. He asked forgiveness for them and provided them with protection, even after they broke their covenants with him - peace be upon him - several times. Did not address them, the messenger is only after it became clear to him that they betrayed him and wanted to sign him and the Muslims. Retaliation was applied only to those who proved to be treason to God and His noble Messenger.

D - then known tribes to own slaves and that Islam came to edit the order necks. He has the prophet freeing slaves and ordered all his followers to do so. It up - peace be upon him - free maid - who was like a son to him - Zaid bin Haritha and by Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him bought Bilal al-Habashi - the first muezzin in Islam - only to edit it.

Y - For those who were trying to undermine the messenger and kill him, (The most famous incident that occurred when Nam master the generosity of God and his face in the bed of the Messenger of Allah on the night he left the city with Abu Bakr , may Allah be pleased with him), he did the Prophet anyone ever to punish those involved in such such acts. The biggest proof of that when the Prophet entered Mecca triumphantly and his was the first orders to his followers not to harm any who offend him and his companions were (peace be upon him). That is one of the scenes of amnesty and pardon in the life of Holy Prophet (peace be upon him).

T - did not allow the Muslims to fight in the first thirteen years of advocacy. It was not related Bmekdrthm to fight because they were experienced to do so because the nature of the life they once knew and long-standing disputes between the tribes, but it's God's fight had not been revealed yet. But after that the law of God Almighty the fighting began with the duties and rights arising from that and the limits of God. The orders of God on the subject of fighting and a clear and explicit for those who fight and how, when and what limits must not be overcome.
G - forbidden in Islam to destroy the infrastructure is strictly prohibited unless ordered by God according to certain situations.

Q - While the enemies of Islam seek to abuse the Prophet in various ways and cursing, he (peace be upon him) praying for their guidance. The best proof of this trip (peace be upon him) to Taif, which hurt the Messenger of Allah mischief very beginning of the refusal to meet him by the tribal elders and ending with the beat and pelted him with stones by children who are left behind even bloodied feet Ahariftan peace be upon him. And when he came Gabriel peace be upon him to take revenge on his enemies and offered him to order the king of the mountains to be applied on them, reject (peace be upon him), and he urged them to be guided and said, " It may be out of the solidity who believes in God. "What the will of the Holy Prophet is to deliver the message and did not take care of himself and the extent of the injury suffered.

U - The Prophet (peace be upon him) that every child is born on instinct (to Islam: Islam means complete submission to God and follow his orders), but influenced by the society in which they live and education received by the change what's inside of common sense.
R - The Science of the Holy Prophet and his companions, all Muslims to worship the one God the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David and Solomon and Jesus, peace be upon them all and believe in them all the apostles and prophets, and the servants of the One God. He also stressed the respect and reverence for all the prophets, without differentiating between them.

Z - also said that the assets of the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are from the same source as the Quran - not a God -
I - predicted the Prophet - inspired by God - a lot of events have already been, as told from the events of the future and you will get there as well.

Q - I have stated in the Koran the story of the sinking of Pharaoh, when the right of the Prophet Moses peace be upon him is outside of Egypt, "the day shall We save thee to be behind those verses," The French scientist, Maurice Bucaille in his book "The Bible, Quran and Science" to confirm this fact, which stunned the world when it reached through his analysis of the mummy of "Pharaoh" that the effects of salt remaining due to drowning in the sea, and said this is what God says in the Qur'an more than 1400 years.

P - The events of the story of the sinking of Pharaoh was before the mission of the Prophet (peace be upon him) thousands of years and mentioned in the Koran did not show this truth to the world only a few decades ago after more than 1400 years to the revelation of the Qur'an. . . How the messenger to know this, if not the Holy Word of God one

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Old 07-29-2012, 03:15 PM #2
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Three things:

1. Quit with the "peace be upon him" thing every time you mention someone dead, it's annoying to keep reading it and it's implied anyway, so there is no need to say it
2. Mohammad was a pedophile
3. Moses never existed, Moses was a combination of several of the myths and legends from the area into a single religion.

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Old 07-30-2012, 07:44 AM #3
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Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
He (blessings of prayer may Allah bless him ten)

This desire to increase the gain recognized
And love and respect for the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
Narrated Abu Huraira (may Allah be pleased with him):
Allah's Apostle said:

For every prophet there is one (special invocation (that will not be rejected) with which he appeals (to Allah)
and I want to keep such an invocation for interceding
for my followers in the Hereafter.

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 75, Number 317e


Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba (may Allah be pleased with him):
The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to pray so much that his feet used to become edematous or swollen, and when he was asked as to why he prays so much, he would say,
"Shall I not be a thankful slave (to Allah)?"

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 76, Number 478

And the prophets in Islam all are equal
The Muslim says the prophets of Allah peace be upon them companions
Respect to all of them
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(285) The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."

(136) Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."



- Sexual abuse of children
There is nothing in Islam, so named by
It is forbidden

These things happen in Western society
The trade, such as adultery and other and with the consent of the Church

You do not mean marriage of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon Ms. Aisha

Prophet speeches before puberty and married her after puberty

So can not marry a young girl before she

Mental because the feelings and even the girl made up after puberty

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z9Fxgx5PM



29. Then, when Musa (Moses) had fulfilled the term, and was travelling with his family, he saw a fire in the direction of Tur (Mount). He said to his family: "Wait, I have seen a fire; perhaps I may bring to you from there some information, or a burning fire-brand that you may warm yourselves."

30. So when he reached it (the fire), he was called from the right side of the valley, in the blessed place from the tree: "O Musa (Moses)! Verily! I am Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!

31. "And throw your stick!" But when he saw it moving as if it were a snake, he turned in flight, and looked not back. (It was said): "O Musa (Moses)! Draw near, and fear not. Verily, you are of those who are secure.

32. "Put your hand in your bosom, it will come forth white without a disease, and draw your hand close to your side to be free from fear (that which you suffered from the snake, and also by that your hand will return to its original state). these are two Burhan (signs, miracles, evidences, proofs) from your Lord to Fir'aun (Pharaoh) and his chiefs. Verily, they are the people who are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).

33. He said: "My Lord! I have killed a man among them, and I fear that they will kill me.

34. "And my brother Harun (Aaron) he is more eloquent in speech than me so send him with me as a helper to confirm me. Verily! I fear that they will belie me."

35. Allah said: "We will strengthen your arm through your brother, and give you both power, so they shall not be able to harm you, with Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), you two as well as those who follow you will be the victors."

36. Then when Musa (Moses) came to them with Our Clear Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), they said: "This is nothing but invented magic. Never did we hear of this among our fathers of old."

37. Musa (Moses) said: "My Lord knows best him who came with guidance from Him, and whose will be the happy end in the Hereafter. Verily, the Zalimun (wrong-doers, polytheists and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) will not be successful."

38. Fir'aun (Pharaoh) said: "O chiefs! I know not that you have an ilah (a god) other than me, so kindle for me (a fire), O Haman, to bake (bricks out of) clay, and set up for me a Sarhan (a lofty tower, or palace, etc.) in order that I may look at (or look for) the Ilah (God) of Musa (Moses); and verily, I think that he [Musa (Moses)] is one of the liars."

39. And he and his hosts were arrogant in the land, without right, and they thought that they would never return to Us.

40. So We seized him and his hosts, and We threw them all into the sea (and drowned them). So behold (O Muhammad ) what was the end of the Zalimun [wrong-doers, polytheists and those who disbelieved in the Oneness of their Lord (Allah), or rejected the advice of His Messenger Musa (Moses)].
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You really don't want people to read your crap do you? You make it impossible out of pure irritation. That wing nut was from the same people who believe in honor killings and 8yo forced marriages. Shoot him and let God determine where he may forever rest.
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You really don't want people to read your crap do you? You make it impossible out of pure irritation. That wing nut was from the same people who believe in honor killings and 8yo forced marriages. Shoot him and let God determine where he may forever rest.
No, he seemed like a very nice and smart guy from that video. How bout we don't shoot him.
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M 13 x 9=117
U 21 x 9=189
H 8 x 9=72
A 1 x 9=9
M 13 x 9=117
M 13 x 9=117
A 1 x 9=9
D 4 x 9=36
----TOTAL------

666


This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666. -Rev. 13:18

According to the Bible Muhammad is the beast that shall bring about the end times.
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Why did you multiply by 9? And Muhammad in Arabic is only 4 letters. And what about the other ways to translate the name Muhammad into English?
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Why did you multiply by 9? And Muhammad in Arabic is only 4 letters. And what about the other ways to translate the name Muhammad into English?
Clearly he has put his faith in the number 9, and in his culture, the name is Muhammad, so that is how he must interpret the deeper meaning of the prophet's true purpose. His subjective faith, as all faiths are, clearly leads to this historic figure being a hell beast. You can't disprove him as a hell beast, so let's just agree that both perceptions of the dude are equally valid and likely to be true.

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Clearly he has put his faith in the number 9, and in his culture, the name is Muhammad, so that is how he must interpret the deeper meaning of the prophet's true purpose. His subjective faith, as all faiths are, clearly leads to this historic figure being a hell beast. You can't disprove him as a hell beast, so let's just agree that both perceptions of the dude are equally valid and likely to be true.

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I guess....still leaves too many factors unconsidered for me to feel any truth in.
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- Sexual abuse of children
There is nothing in Islam, so named by
It is forbidden

These things happen in Western society
The trade, such as adultery and other and with the consent of the Church

You do not mean marriage of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon Ms. Aisha

Prophet speeches before puberty and married her after puberty

So can not marry a young girl before she

Mental because the feelings and even the girl made up after puberty
So what you're saying is, sexual intercourse between a grown man and a 12yo girl is not pedophilia? I would argue that a preteen's mental state is not exactly ready for the requirements of marriage. Even a 20 year old's brain is not fully developed to the point of being able to make such decisions. It's why so many marriages between very young people do not work. And in one between an adult and a child/teenager, there is a significant imbalance of maturity that prevents any real "loving" relationship from forming.

Also, those "forbidden" abuses happen in Middle Eastern society as well. Just because a practice is forbidden or looked down upon does not mean it doesn't happen in that society. Adultery is not exactly looked favorably upon in Western society as you imply. The reason it happens is that human beings are imperfect and often do much to harm each other. I would argue that a grown man marrying a post-pubescent teenager is doing a great deal of harm, yet that occurs quite often in Islamic society...

Lastly, if you cannot present yourself intelligently in someone else's language (English is obviously not your first language), it is incredibly rude and pointless to attempt a philosophical conversation in it. I can speak German conversationally but probably could not discuss theology in it and so I would never insult a German person by trying to. Please show a little more respect in the future. Knowing and accepting your limitations is after all, a virtue.
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So what you're saying is, sexual intercourse between a grown man and a 12yo girl is not pedophilia? I would argue that a preteen's mental state is not exactly ready for the requirements of marriage. Even a 20 year old's brain is not fully developed to the point of being able to make such decisions. It's why so many marriages between very young people do not work. And in one between an adult and a child/teenager, there is a significant imbalance of maturity that prevents any real "loving" relationship from forming.

Also, those "forbidden" abuses happen in Middle Eastern society as well. Just because a practice is forbidden or looked down upon does not mean it doesn't happen in that society. Adultery is not exactly looked favorably upon in Western society as you imply. The reason it happens is that human beings are imperfect and often do much to harm each other. I would argue that a grown man marrying a post-pubescent teenager is doing a great deal of harm, yet that occurs quite often in Islamic society...
Actually, if I recall correctly the girl was married to him at 6 years old and consummated the marriage when she was 9.
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