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Old 07-30-2012, 02:41 PM #22
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SFR close (horizontal) should be the smootest due to the bolt moving slower

You are getting the same results as mine, 20ms of dwell is too low for sfr horizontal
with sfr close how much dwell do you need more or less?
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:10 PM #23
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with sfr close how much dwell do you need more or less?
Every gun is different. Set your sfr, then tune the dwell. Turn the dwell down till the gun doesn't fire anymore, then raise it 1-2 ms. I wouldn't recommend doing this until you have at least 10-20 cases through the gun.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:42 PM #24
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Is it recommended to keep the sfr open for the first 10-20 cases or is it okay to have it closed from the start?
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:05 PM #25
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I believe it is okay to have it closed straight from the box.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:32 PM #26
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I believe it is okay to have it closed straight from the box.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:22 AM #27
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You can close the SFR straight away but I definitely wouldn't lower the dwell below factory until you've got a few cases through it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:10 AM #28
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You can close the SFR straight away but I definitely wouldn't lower the dwell below factory until you've got a few cases through it.
i left the sfr as it was and i lowerd the dwell 20 after 2000 shots and it works good! is it ok?
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:34 AM #29
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i left the sfr as it was and i lowerd the dwell 20 after 2000 shots and it works good! is it ok?
I think the break in period is 10-12 cases
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:03 PM #30
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You can close the SFR straight away but I definitely wouldn't lower the dwell below factory until you've got a few cases through it.
Do you mean this for general reliability (the gun being more sensitive to lubrification) or you have other reasons in mind behind this comment?

In my mind, if it works, it works...if it doesn't your dwell is too low...
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:52 PM #31
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Im pretty sure he just meant you just have to break in the gun, I.E. the springs,
o-rings, etc. before doing any tuning to the dwell. This is the case with most guns.
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Do you mean this for general reliability (the gun being more sensitive to lubrification) or you have other reasons in mind behind this comment?

In my mind, if it works, it works...if it doesn't your dwell is too low...
Correct. More than anything I hate it when a gun stops working mid game. When you are making fine adjustments like you are with such a relatively new gun then you are running the risk of having such a thing happen.

But, it's your gun and your game, so who am I to argue

Just PLEASE don't blame the gun in front of all your friends and family if something goes wrong just as you're about to pull off
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:15 AM #33
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Correct. More than anything I hate it when a gun stops working mid game. When you are making fine adjustments like you are with such a relatively new gun then you are running the risk of having such a thing happen.

But, it's your gun and your game, so who am I to argue

Just PLEASE don't blame the gun in front of all your friends and family if something goes wrong just as you're about to pull off
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Got the point. I agree and I should've just shut up, I am sorry... You are the/my reference!

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Old 08-13-2012, 09:01 AM #34
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Updated results at 20K mark in 1st post.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:28 PM #35
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Hey jack question about the Geo platform and dwell :

Do noticeable effeciency gains come from dwell tuning? I know on other spool valve guns they do on other platforms, but if they don't on the Geo 3 I wouldn't be as inclined to critically dwell the gun.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:38 PM #36
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simple answer. yes you will notice a difference if you tune your dwell once your gun is broken in. Also making sure you have proper paint to barrel match will make a big difference as well
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:25 PM #37
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Hey jack question about the Geo platform and dwell :

Do noticeable effeciency gains come from dwell tuning? I know on other spool valve guns they do on other platforms, but if they don't on the Geo 3 I wouldn't be as inclined to critically dwell the gun.
Last Weekend i was able to shoot 405 Balls (Counter) out of 1000 PSI at 280 FPS at a dwell setting of 26.2 millisecs.
(683 Paint, .685 Shaft4 barrel, SFR Min, Geo2.1 Style Bolt, 15 BPS, Ninja 68/4500 Coldfill, Woodsball game, Short Bursts with some time between)

Plenty efficient for me to leave the dwell as it is

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Old 09-07-2012, 11:36 PM #38
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Why is the dwell setting on the geo3 so much higher then the geo2. My geo2 runs between 10-11ms. The geo3 is more then dbl?


Sorry found the answer. Very interesting information


Thanks for your input

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Old 09-09-2012, 10:50 PM #39
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I took the gun out of the box, threw the dwell to 25 and ended it at that. I use Monkey Poo grease and it seemed to work fine. No drop off at high ROF and maintained consistency over the chrono (with junk JT paint mind you...).

Every now and again, you'll have that one tard that will put the dwell at 10 ms. below recommended. These guys are the ones that later have the problems with their guns.

In the end, take Jacks advice and just keep the dwell to stock. This gun is amazing and doesn't need any tinkering...ever
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Update at 30 000 shots:

I found better consistancy with sfr at 2oclock (not open not close)

With sfr horizontal, i notice lower velocity when ramping, one balling is fine, but 15bps the velo drop by approx 20fps... no matter what dwell.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:46 AM #41
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Update at 30 000 shots:

I found better consistancy with sfr at 2oclock (not open not close)

With sfr horizontal, i notice lower velocity when ramping, one balling is fine, but 15bps the velo drop by approx 20fps... no matter what dwell.
What tank reg? What pressure?
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What tank reg? What pressure?
regular mid pressure ninja reg
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