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Old 07-23-2012, 02:29 PM #22
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I guess I don't follow here. I play pump because I enjoy the style of open class pump play, not because I want to feel that I have more skilled in this game than semi players. I suck with a semi and personally don't like it. I truly think open class pump is perfect. If you want to limit paint for pump play, go play stock class tournaments. This thread just seems silly to me because its an argument over person preference and not really about pump tournaments.

Just my $0.02.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:29 PM #23
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To each their own, and to say the pump community isn't skilled is asking to get raged on... It is no secret that today's paintball is not what it once was, But pump play is still and will always be a shooters game.

I invite any and all to come to OSC in Stl MO. Limited paint - pump events (3man Sat/5man Sun) in August-

=) PM me or find the thread if you need info!
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:39 PM #24
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I play pump and the beauty of pumps well, all markers is that you make it your own. You give it the look that makes you feel like you can shoot anyone with ONE SHOT. That's why pumpers love playing pump for the self satisfaction of knowing that it only takes one shot. Not throwing lanes out or putting people in.. idk i just feel that if we keep increasing mods to make pumps faster at shooting it wont be considered a pump any more

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Old 07-23-2012, 04:50 PM #25
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Cool story bro

Come play osc with limited paint. Ill still lane off the break
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:34 PM #26
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Cool story bro

Come play osc with limited paint. Ill still lane off the break
god i wish we could like stuff on nation you sir just made me laugh harder than i have in weeks
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:56 PM #27
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I actually agree that there is no need for the pump arms race that is happening all over again. I cringe everytime I see a motorized 50 rd. hopper.
What pump arms race? Pumps have been able to shoot the same ROF for decades, the limiting factor is your arm and your aim.

Why would you cringe at a 50 round motorized hopper? I LOVE seeing hoppers like that because it tells me pump is coming back. The last time there was a production motorized hopper of 100 rounds or smaller was about 20 years ago. This tells you people want reliable feeding with LESS paint.

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I play pump and the beauty of pumps well, all markers is that you make it your own. You give it the look that makes you feel like you can shoot anyone with ONE SHOT. That's why pumpers love playing pump for the self satisfaction of knowing that it only takes one shot. Not throwing lanes out or putting people in.. idk i just feel that if we keep increasing mods to make pumps faster at shooting it wont be considered a pump any more
Laning and putting people into bunkers are skills that are employed by players in every type of paintball. You can even lane in stock class. What this tells me is you are having trouble with players outplaying you, not pumps getting faster. It can't be anyway because pumps have a hard ROF limit at 8-9 bps that has not changed for many years, nor is it likely to change because it's not the gun that makes that limit, it's the human arm.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:50 PM #28
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ever since pursuit came out, i always have to wonder if people are serious or just stirring up trouble just to have a high reply count on a thread.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:43 PM #29
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ever since pursuit came out, i always have to wonder if people are serious or just stirring up trouble just to have a high reply count on a thread.
everytime i see a thread like this i think about replying and then i rember the pursuit game. and i agree, most threads like this are pointless as they pop up every week or 2.

But to stay on topic. Go play on a pump team in an event against semis. then comeback and tell us how much you hate ATs. Oh and im fairly certain the autotrigger came before semi automatics, pnu-assist and electros.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:46 PM #30
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god i wish we could like stuff on nation you sir just made me laugh harder than i have in weeks
I think the closest we can get is this ...



Though vbulletin actually does have a "like" module, along with a thanks module.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:23 PM #31
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A team that shoots guns with autotrigger and shoots 60 round osc style can shoot a stream off the break then shoot one ball at a time when they get to their bunker. Its skill both ways, you can autotigger through 4-5 pods and someone can still shoot you in the face with one ball, 1bps or 7-8 bps, pump is pump, open class or stockclass, 60 rounds or unlimited, its still the same, pure talent and skill. What if you have a gun with autotrigger and a winchester hopper vs a a non-autotrigger and a revy, no matter what setup, its all up to the player.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:38 PM #32
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i have so many configurations with all my guns... i want to build the 2K4 prostock i have into a stock-class marker or get a traccer and put a feed tube and a bucket changer on it. i still love my CCM S5 and a winchester hopper.
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The OP doesn't seem to realize that it takes a lot of skill to autotrigger and still keep your paint on target. Well, I have a hard time with it, at least.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:26 AM #35
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truth x2

not to mention, i have a gun thats not "modded", completely bone stock from the factory accept for a CCM pump kit, and i can pump them out faster then my buddy with an autotrigger. this "mod" argument sorta just went out the window.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:25 AM #36
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A team that shoots guns with autotrigger and shoots 60 round osc style can shoot a stream off the break then shoot one ball at a time when they get to their bunker. Its skill both ways, you can autotigger through 4-5 pods and someone can still shoot you in the face with one ball, 1bps or 7-8 bps, pump is pump, open class or stockclass, 60 rounds or unlimited, its still the same, pure talent and skill. What if you have a gun with autotrigger and a winchester hopper vs a a non-autotrigger and a revy, no matter what setup, its all up to the player.
After all the people putting a whole lot of garbage on my thread finally someone said some thing smart that does not involve pun or saying I'm hating on pumps. I play pump too
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Anyone know how the tournaments are in Hawaii?
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:18 AM #37
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He is saying that pump is pump and this mod gun craze is not a thing. He is not agreeing with you but saying that all forms of pump are still pump. There is no arms race. Everyone here is basically on the same page except you it appears. We have still yet to hear what these mods, or whatever you are talking about, actually are.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:22 AM #38
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After all the people putting a whole lot of garbage on my thread finally someone said some thing smart that does not involve pun or saying I'm hating on pumps. I play pump too
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:54 AM #39
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Anyone know how the tournaments are in Hawaii?
Amazing? Least thats what this broke paintballer hears lol

They like their modded pumps though... Pump electros and what not to make it fun ----
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A mod'ed pump is still a pump right? Not sure what the issue is as long as one pump stroke equals one shot.
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I would rather play in a tournament with people shooting AT's than Electros. As far as the ROF for an AT goes, I think 8-9 bps is quite an overestimate. I play Pump because I want to be the underdog on the field anyhow, so I don't care what everyone else is shooting.
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Learn to read. How can you ask someone a question in response to someones comment to you?
That is a frequent problem among the illiterate. Seems like he can neither read nor write.

Honestly, the only true use of a pump autotrigger (from my experience) is off the break or when bunkering someone. I personally onyl find relevance to it in the latter of the two.

All the pump I keep in my collection, oddly enough none have autotriggers. I prefer true sliders and its too much of a pain to mod them.
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