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Old 05-10-2014, 10:45 AM #1261
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I believe anything over 8 hours is "fasted", but obviously this will vary from person to person, metabolic rate, pyloric emptying, etc.
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:39 PM #1262
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Fasted can mean simple not post prandial (2-3h from last feeding for insulin to subside, insulin being a counterregulatory hormone with GH it blunts lipolytic action.

after 8h yopu're dipping significantly enough into your liver glycogen, after 16h it's just abut gone. These result in some of the AMPK upregulation effects.

i been taking 7.5 yohimbine hcl in the morning now. no idea if it's doing anything
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:12 PM #1263
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Check this out Lurk, if you haven't already seen it-

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=4076

To follow up on my question regarding being fasted and taking yohimbine, Lyle suggests, in the link above, it be taken fasted to avoid an insulin response negating the yohimbine's effects.
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Originally posted by Black Angus: "So, apparently, if you post in the mountain climbing thread that you enjoy climbing because you can fap off the top of the mountain and watch your *** fly in the wind, you get banned."
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:46 PM #1264
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This is 100% correct. Anything based on lipolytic upregulation is most effective in a fasted state.

Choline + carnitine may help with fat oxidation of the FFA released.

Also, Lyle is a hack, and he's a ***** for not recommending ECY stacked
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:30 PM #1265
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How much are you taking, Lurk? How much to you recommend taking? I found this 0.2 mg/kg of bodyweight on bodybuilding.com... but just wanted to know what you thought.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:55 PM #1266
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7.5 mg would be my guess? I'd assume 7.5g would turn you into a nervous wreck and/or put you in the hospital
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Originally posted by Black Angus: "So, apparently, if you post in the mountain climbing thread that you enjoy climbing because you can fap off the top of the mountain and watch your *** fly in the wind, you get banned."
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:07 PM #1267
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7.5 mg would be my guess? I'd assume 7.5g would turn you into a nervous wreck and/or put you in the hospital
Nvm I'm crazy.. I was reading the labels of some Yohimbine HCL sups and I misread the amount per pill.. I thought it said 25mg.. not 2.5 mg

I'm crazy.. nvm me
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:14 PM #1268
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I've not gone over 10 because I'm yohimbine sensitive

I'd say that's probably a more efficacious dose. I'm really just assessing my tolerance for now. ECYA is probably something I'll do more of this summer.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:14 PM #1269
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When I take 2.5-5mg, I don't feel anything. When I take 7.5 I get sweaty and definitely notice the stim effects. I feel like adding EC to this might be overkill.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:37 PM #1270
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7.5 mg would be my guess? I'd assume 7.5g would turn you into a nervous wreck and/or put you in the hospital
Maybe if you're not a viking/mountain.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:35 PM #1271
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Recommended dose of YHCL for me is 18mg. Starting off realll slow with 6mg and 200mg caffeine tomorrow morning, followed by a half hour of LISS cardio.

Would be HIIT, but I've got heavy squats scheduled for later on in the day.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:55 PM #1272
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I currently do a low dose Yohimbine HCL 5mg morning 2.5mg afternoon along with 2 primatine morning and afternoon, caffeine random for both depending if it is from preworkout or some other source, and a baby aspirin for each.

Decent energy, hunger is controlled. I never feel like I can't eat but at the same time I do not usually feel like I am starving even at the end of my 16 hour fast.
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:56 PM #1273
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Bumping my dose up to 12mg tm morning. No anxiety from 6mg, so I'm confident I can do 12.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:26 PM #1274
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Got 3 free tubs of ON creatine/glutamine, but the **** is flavored so it gives my whey shakes a weird aftertaste.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:02 PM #1275
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lol wtf, a flavored creatine with glutamine???

Once my caffeine and sulb get here my stack will look like:
-Noopept
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And im thinking dosage will be twice a day, once upon waking up and the other in the early afternoon
10mg noopept
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any suggestions? MIGHT be able to squeeze one more supp (galantamine? ALCAR? primaracetam? idk) in but i want to run this for a bit and see how it goes
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:09 AM #1276
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Whelp.. yesterday I took 7.5mg and 10mg of yohimbine as well as my typical EC stack and didn't feel anything.. Today I took 15mg, so we shall see. I'm not sure if the Bodybuilding.com formula meant all at once or throughout the day but according to that I should be taking roughly 28-30 mg a day
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Old 05-21-2014, 02:50 PM #1277
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Recommendations on favorite whey or whey/casein blend? Mixability, profile, and price are highest on my priority list. Don't really care about taste as long as it mixes alright

May just buy some SP brand if nothing else
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Recommendations on favorite whey or whey/casein blend? Mixability, profile, and price are highest on my priority list. Don't really care about taste as long as it mixes alright

May just buy some SP brand if nothing else
I've been using Dymatize's blend the last few months. Taste and mixability have been above average, I'd say. Profile looked about average for the price range, nothing stood out to me.
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I refuse to buy anything from Dymatize ever again. I bought 20+ pounds of the dymatize elite when it was on sale and you cant even choke that **** down. Never ever ever again
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I refuse to buy anything from Dymatize ever again. I bought 20+ pounds of the dymatize elite when it was on sale and you cant even choke that **** down. Never ever ever again
I didn't think it was that bad
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I refuse to buy anything from Dymatize ever again. I bought 20+ pounds of the dymatize elite when it was on sale and you cant even choke that **** down. Never ever ever again
Beverly International UMP. 80/20 whey/casein blend. Get Cookies and Cream. Thank me later.
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