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Old 07-26-2012, 10:16 AM #64
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No date since I haven't committed to any suppliers. I have 4 formulations only 3 of which are of any interest to people here, and 2 of them probably require significant human testing, given the pathway is relatively novel and somewhat broad.

I also have some gear ideas that are very neat I just have to figure out the best system to deploy a couple of them. Not sure what margins would look like on those yet
I'm interested in what you have up your sleeve.

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Sounds interesting. I would definitely be interested in trying it out. ETA?
Can't even say, we are still in the formulating stage. Hopefully this year
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:17 AM #65
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Cool, just didn't wanna order a big tub of something now if you were releasing next month.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:27 AM #66
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Won't be soon, but I may come back to you guys for beta testers, as you tend to be brutally honest. Which is a good thing with testing products as nut huggers essentially just praise the free product which is not what we will be looking for.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:31 AM #67
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Oh my god Alan just sent me a tub of the new White Flood. Oh my god I have never had more energy; I felt like I could do anything.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:34 AM #68
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Pretty much what I don't want. I want the pros and the cons no matter how brutal it may be. Why? Cause thats how you end up with a great product.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:38 AM #69
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:43 AM #70
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I've reviewed things before, could do it again if you'd want me to. If not, I'll probably just pay to try it out.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:51 AM #71
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Anyone tried Assault? Only other PreWO I've used was Jack3d.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:10 AM #72
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Assault isn't bad. But not something to rave about either.

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Cognition: Focus XT

Pump: Clout

Energy: Straight DMAA
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:12 AM #73
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Gonna guess that acute spiking of T/C ratio before/during training is the next hot thing in preworkouts (for natty bros anyway).

Sort of like LG's Anadraulic State GT, but actually good this time
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:17 AM #74
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Oral synephrine is the next big placebo, kind of like LG's Anadraulic State GT, but still placebo.

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Old 07-26-2012, 11:40 AM #75
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:52 AM #76
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:01 PM #77
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New companies attempting to make it sound useful entertains me.

Kind of like Ergogenix with N-methyl-tyramine
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Gonna guess that acute spiking of T/C ratio before/during training is the next hot thing in preworkouts (for natty bros anyway).

Sort of like LG's Anadraulic State GT, but actually good this time
Can you elaborate on this for a noob? A guy at the gym yesterday happened to mention Anadraulic State GT as the best PreWO he's used.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:10 PM #79
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How much do you think this stuff matters? In the sense is that slight, perceived edge that may or may not be placebo, worth the cash that companies are charging.
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If you want a pre-workout with a bunch of useless **** in dosages that aren't near an efficacious dose. Then Anadraulic State is for you.

SPP: Would you like some snake oil? The answer is probably no

Now what if I told you it increases endogenous androgen production via transdermal application?
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:33 PM #81
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I'd say if it isn't protein, creatine, or an anabolic steroid I'd be weary of how effective it could be.

I know there are hundreds of pub med studies saying this and that increased MPS by x percentage blah blah blah. My real question is, show me the guy whose training was taken to the next level by some OTC supp.

I don't doubt that in some lab your product increased something that should translate to lean muscle gain. But I am willing to be it's nothing too significant.
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I bartend at night around the city here, and one night these two guys came in and sat there talking about the supplements that had helped them get bigger. It started by one of the guys complimenting me on my size (which was very kind of him). They actually specifically talked about celltech (no, not as code for gear, legit celltech) adding 15-20lbs within a few months. Their claims were ridiculous and completely laughable, but I sat there and nodded and identified with them. Big tip ftw.

I did help them with protein cost though. One of the guys was talking about how great his gains were with beef protein from GNC. 2lbs for $45. Seemed to think he was getting a deal. I had him look up true nutrition on his phone and blew his ****ing mind.
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