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Old 08-12-2012, 10:49 AM #1072
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Better than or better for their team... There is a difference. I would say that better is just that, irrelevant of playing time and salary. I would then agree that Malkin and Giroux, among others, are better for their team, currently, until Sid can show he can play a full season. It is tough to say that though because when Sid did play his PPG was among the highest, as it always was.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:57 AM #1073
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I refuse to believe that crosby is a better "all-around player." He floats around in the defensive zone trying not to get hit waiting for the puck to be passed to him. Stamkos buys into Boucher's system and gets in the lanes and blocks shots.
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I refuse to believe that crosby is a better "all-around player." He floats around in the defensive zone trying not to get hit waiting for the puck to be passed to him. Stamkos buys into Boucher's system and gets in the lanes and blocks shots.
While I agree that Crosby's defensive abilities are severely overrated, Stammer is no better defensively.
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id take crosby over stamkos personally. I think crosby is a great all round player.
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Advanced statistics make breaking down Crosby vs Stamkos much easier. We can just look at their Corsi and Fenwick numbers and truly tell who is better.. so lets do that.

I took only 5v5 even strength as thats really the easiest way to separate the two fairly.

First we look at GF20, which is goals per every 20 mins of ice-time:

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Crosby: 2.090 Stamkos: 1.180
Crosby the obvious winner, scoring over 2 goals per 20 as opposed to Stamkos' 1.1.

However, when we adjust for zone starts, we get this:

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Crosby: 2.239 Stamkos: 1.233
Meaning that Crosby scores nearly twice the amount of goals per 20 minutes of ice-time than Stamkos.

Next, we look at the opposite, GA20, which is goals against per 20 minutes of ice time.

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Crosby: 0.877 Stamkos: 0.899
These stats are pretty close, however once we adjust for zone starts, we see that Crosby actually allows fewer goals against while Stamkos allows more.

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Crosby: 0.849 Stamkos: 0.920
Finally, we'll look at the Goals For Percentage, which is Goals For / (Goals For + Goals Against).

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Crosby: 0.705 Stamkos: 0.567
Adjusted for Zone Starts:

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Crosby: 0.725 Stamkos: 0.573
That stat is the most telling. Crosby's GF% is 72.5%, while Stamkos' is a mere 57.3%.

There are plenty more stats that I could throw out but none really benefit Stamkos. He's a great player but Crosby is a cut above.

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