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Old 07-08-2012, 03:01 PM #22
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we dont know whats going on because neither party has posted any proof...all i'm saying is that all this could have been avoided with a signature confirmation
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:24 PM #23
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we dont know whats going on because neither party has posted any proof...all i'm saying is that all this could have been avoided with a signature confirmation
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:50 PM #24
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I shipped the gun, I have all the paper work
To show that I did, i called USPS and they even said it was delivered,
It's not my fault they lost it, I didnt steal it, even he knows that, he even told me an didn't mean to say that, so I don't care that your his friend, but you should get the whole story first, yea one reason I sent the gun back was because the manule, I pecificly told him to put in the Manuel's.
He said ok I will. I received the gun, guess what no manual, and the gun had way to much kick for my likings, so I set the gun back, WITH TRACKING, and on the tracking, it says it was delivered, so I dont know why you are having everyone call me a scammer, when I sent your gun back, it says it was delivered, and like I said I even called for you like you asked me to, they said it was delivered, it's not my fault, if it was on your door step and it got stolen, or they lost it, if they lost it how am I a scammer, so please mods when I can me or my brother will post pics of all the paper work
I'm not sure if I got the full story, but I'm sure you can just download a manual online. Also, just because his marker has to much kick "for your liking" you need to still follow through your part of the deal. Think about what the other person is thinking, especially after shipping first. This is not the "test everyone's markers and see how it shoots forum." This is the buy sell trade forum where you do your side of the deal and the other party does theirs.

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Old 07-08-2012, 06:02 PM #25
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I'm not sure I got the full story, but I'm sure you can just download a manual. Also, just because his marker has to much kick "for your liking" you need to think what the other wants too. This is not the "test everyone's markers and send how it shoots forum." This is the buy sell trade forum where you do your side of the deal and the other party does theirs.
He's right... You traded it... You cant send it back before you send your gun cause you "don't like it"... If you hadnt sent it back in the first place... We wouldn't be in this mess!
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:13 PM #26
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He's right... You traded it... You cant send it back before you send your gun cause you "don't like it"... If you hadnt sent it back in the first place... We wouldn't be in this mess!
Do you have any screenshots of the deal?..otherwise i'm sure a mod will close this thread
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:55 PM #27
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i disagree...What happens if the marker is damaged through shipping and sender had no insurance?..is it then the person receiving the markers problem?..
Shipping insurance covers items lost in shipping and damage during shipping. If the package was lost in shipping tracking never said delivered. If the package was damaged during shipping the receiver should be able to show proof of the damage-hopefully with pics or better yet unboxing video. Shipping insurance doesn't cover items stolen after it was delivered.

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we dont know whats going on because neither party has posted any proof...all i'm saying is that all this could have been avoided with a signature confirmation
Agree, Signature Confirmation is $2.10. Another option which is actually free is "Hold for Pick up".

I hate to point this out in a public forum, but Theft from porch has been used as a scam: Buyer claimed he never received the marker even though tracking says it had been delivered, forcing the seller to pay back the funds. Later on he was caught having the item for sale. I can't find the Theft Report thread on this. This would be an easy scam to pull off, because the buyer just have to say it, and everyone here would believe he's the victim, and side with him. Like I said earlier, the sender cannot be responsible for the safety of the neighborhood where he's sending the item. Even PayPal will not refund your funds if tracking says the item was delivered (unless the claim is "item not as described"). I'm not accusing either party here in this thread of doing this, but just pointing out the facts about who's responsible for what.

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He's right... You traded it... You cant send it back before you send your gun cause you "don't like it"... If you hadnt sent it back in the first place... We wouldn't be in this mess!
Agree. PbN BST is not Walmart. You can't send the item back just because you don't like it.
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:16 PM #28
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this thread is a huge waste of time without screenshots to prove something/anything has happened.

CL: buy delivery confirmation AND insurance for everything.
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Not all of use have extra money, for stupid s***. It says it was delivered, how do I know he dont have his gun and he's trying to scam me? Anyone think about that?
its not for stupid s***, its for annoying s*** like this. Its your job to ensure he receives it (in his hands, not on his porch). If you didnt get insurance, too bad. Its still your responsibility. $800 guns being shipped and you can't scrounge up $3 bucks for insurance? please.

I have spoken to the USPS about issues like this. I was actually told "there is absolutely no recourse. If we lose an item, its not our fault". I was told to assume it will not arrive, unless you buy insurance.

Lesson learned. You still owe a gun.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:18 PM #30
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just so you know usps doesn't just lose ****.. if there was no confirmation purchased they wouldn't know if the package was delivered.. if there is no confirmation it is not scanned anywhere in the usps system. so they wouldn't know it has gone anywhere. you say you sent a tracking number.. post those tracking numbers in this thread so they can be seen. they will show point of orgin and destination as well as dates. who is to say that you didn't give them a false tracking number that was for something else.
Did both parties get the phone numbers, full names and addresses and verify that information .
we are missing a lot from this story. there needs to be screen shots of the whole deal posted in here or no one will be able to help you
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:26 PM #31
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Here is the tracking number 0312 0090 0001 0341 1180
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:24 PM #36
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:31 PM #37
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Go to USPS people and track it, it says it was delivered
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:03 PM #38
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Go to USPS people and track it, it says it was delivered
Delivered or not he never got the gun. And if you weren't so cheap in buying 6 dollar insurance we
Wouldnt have this problem. Plus he could have just sent u the stuff instead of u sending back the gun without even telling. You owe him money and an apology
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And you want me to pay for something that I didnt lose, of course I'm not goin to pay 775 I don't have that, and even If I did I wouldn't, USPS lost it, not me!
Your shipment your responsibility! Perhaps you should read the rules before trying to make an agreement in the B/S/T or posting here without making a fool of yourself. Nice to know that someone like you is generally local to me, if worse comes to worse i could always file the police report locally for the OP in the event he does'nt fix his end of the situation.

I figure it would be better than doing it over the phone and with 5 days of work i have nothing better to do. That's as long as his location for his profile is actually accurate. But lets not get to hasty and start posting some real evidence haha.
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Your shipment your responsibility! Perhaps you should read the rules before trying to make an agreement in the B/S/T or posting here without making a fool of yourself. Nice to know that someone like you is generally local to me, if worse comes to worse i could always file the police report locally for the OP in the event he does'nt fix his end of the situation.

I figure it would be better than doing it over the phone and with 5 days of work i have nothing better to do. That's as long as his location for his profile is actually accurate. But lets not get to hasty and start posting some real evidence haha.
FYI, I've checked with the mods about the rules on items delivered (per tracking) but stolen from the porch. PBN does not have a policy on it.

And you're right that there's no screenshots of PM's, USPS tracking, or anything that matters have been posted here. So there's no rush in getting anything solved.
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I could've thought that there was something in there on it, then again i haven't read the rules myself in awhile. Feel free to peg me for that one guys but it gets the general idea across.

But if you lack the common sense to protect your package with less than 20$ out of your pocket which is a fraction of what it costs then you should be liable. Might just be me but that seems a little negligent, that and the reason for returning the package sounds bogus. He should have asked for compensation first, like an expedited manual or money to order a new one. But i should really remain unbiased til some shred of proof pops up i guess.
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